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Banjaxed
06-29-2004, 03:23 PM
can anyone tell me what notes the cello positions translate into?


for example:


II POSITION on D


what note is that? E perhaps (1st posn being D#?). I dunno, can anyone tell me? And is there an easy way to generically figure it out for all strings/positions?

cneill
06-29-2004, 06:15 PM
i don't know either but would also like to know.

Banjaxed
06-30-2004, 11:49 AM
This *might* help.


http://www.cello.org/uploadedfiles/images/cellohand.jpg


the first image on the left seems (if you zoom in) to indicate the notes for each string in each position...Edited by: Banjaxed

Banjaxed
06-30-2004, 12:07 PM
Here's what i reckon from the above diagram...


String: E G D A
Position:


Open E G D A
1stD A E B
2nd ? ? ? ?
3rd E B F# C#
4th F C G D


The 2nd position values aren't noted on the diagram, but it looks like the notes for the second position would be:


2ndD#? A#? F? C?


I know it seems obvious, but i don't want to presume, as i know virtually nothing about cello.Edited by: Banjaxed

mestonf
06-30-2004, 02:24 PM
i play the violin but i have a feeling that the spacings are different....on the violin everything is measured in semi tones but banjaxed to be honest it depends what key you are in for what note comes next after the open string

e.g if you are in D Major
Open - D
1st - E
2nd - F#
3rd - G
4th -A

Banjaxed
06-30-2004, 02:31 PM
i play the violin but i have a feeling that the spacings are different....on the violin everything is measured in semi tones but banjaxed to be honest it depends what key you are in for what note comes next after the open string

e.g if you are in D Major
Open - D
1st - E
2nd - F#
3rd - G
4th -A


Ok, so to measure it in semi tones, is it correct to say that between:


Open and 1st there always 2 semitones
1st and 2nd there's always 2 semitones
2nd and 3rd there's always1 semitone
3rd and 4th there's always 2 semitones.


Is that the same on all strings?

mestonf
06-30-2004, 02:36 PM
not nessasarily banjaxed because it depends on what scale you are in on the amound of semitones and tones between each note for example on the string of D on a violin here are the notes

Open - D
1st Semitone - D# or E flat
2nd Semitone - E
3rd Semitone - F
4th Semitone - F# or G Flat
5th Semitone - G
6th Semitone - G# or A flat
7th Semitone - A


But yeah on a violin all the spacings are the same on each string but just have different note names

Petra
07-01-2004, 05:15 AM
Sorry - missed this posting earlier:


Strings for cello are C G D A


Ill stick up the fingering for first position - later - off to work now!

Krystian
07-23-2004, 10:53 PM
ok, I don't know what is up with some of these explanations.


1st position- normal position, where you first learn to play the notes
2nd- first finger goes where your 3rd would, in this case F# on the D string


3rd- where your fourth finger goes ( in this case G natural)


4th- slide all the way down to where your thumb is resting at the bottom of the neck, place fingers down normally.

Petra
07-24-2004, 05:41 AM
Hi Krystian - how r u?

Krystian
07-24-2004, 02:44 PM
Hey Petra! I am well, and yourself?

Petra
07-24-2004, 04:09 PM
yeah im fine - gradually making progress with the cellosmileys/smiley1.gif

Krystian
07-25-2004, 03:56 AM
That's great! What are you playing now a days? Mastered any scales yet? smileys/smiley17.gif

Petra
07-25-2004, 06:20 AM
I think the word *mastered* is a long way off of anything i play - but pretty happy switching from first to fourth now - and ive been having great fun with staccato and slurring.


Recently been working on volcano with my teacher as well smileys/smiley1.gif

Banjaxed
07-26-2004, 08:46 PM
I think this is my answer, for those interested:


*************************************
NORMAL SHIFTING

________0 1 3______4______13 4_____12312312312312

A string- a b c sharp, d shift, e f g sharp abcdefgabcdefgabc
D string- d e f sharp, g shift, a b c sharp
G string- g a b sharp, c shift, d e f sharp
C string- c d e sharp, f shift, g a b sharp

(as the notes and shifting gets higher fingers get closer togeather)
*************************************


Edited by: Banjaxed