Does anyone else belive that "the story of O" is a refernce to Othello? I think it makes sense because both are about love scorned. |
well its not... Damien rice said it himself, he was cycling his bike one day when O popped into his head outta nowhere, then he talks bout crap like relationsships n sh*t always going round and stuff like that. |
Well then.. Thank you for clearing that up even though he said so can't that be thought of as an interesting parallel |
oh. fora sec there i thought you were were reffering to the actual Story of O, as in the novel. hasanyone read it? i heard it was good.. very 'sexually exotic'. i was thinking about buying it just to see if i can compareit with Damiens music, although ithink theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book. i woulddefinitely stillbuy it if someone gave it a thumbs up. |
yeah but you would get a cheep thrill out of the book...i may buy it..[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]
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Who wrote story of O? the novel? sounds interesting |
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Ive read excerpts tania, and its not very good, very long and wordy. you can check it our for yourself @ Part One of the Story of O Part Two Part Three Part Four |
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Pauline Reague, a frenchwomen |
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Hmm, maybe one could read the "Story of O" and listen to "O" at the same time, and achieve some sort of spiritual nirvana. [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]
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As I remember it 'the story of O' refers to the book, although he hadn't read it (he claims)... the album title 'O' does not... it just jumped into his head... and the two are unconnected... why? who knows...
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ahh krystian.. i was just nowskimming through the links you gave and wow.. itseems to be the entire novel! now i wont hafta buy it >:) thx thx! much appreciated http://www.freecfm.com/d/damien/foru...s/smiley14.gif Quote:
yeah.. thatstrue i do remember reading somewhere that he hadntreadthe book, but then in Amie, he says to read him the story ofo. i know the title of the album has nothing to do with the novel itself but that song (or that verse)makes me think otherwise. Quote:
i think youre prob right.. maybehehadnt read thenovel at first, but did later when Amie was written. it does kinda have a nice balance with having the album called O and havinga verse that compliments that title. |
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No prob Tania [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] |
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ahh.. nice to know! mhmm.. |
I've been listening to the Union Chapel CD and my suspicion that he's been singing "read me the story of old" the whole time seem to be confirmed, anyone else get think its that.
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funny you said that cus i heard the Union Chapel cdbefore O.. and i thought it said that same thing, but the lyrics said otherwise. plus.. read me the story of old doesnt make much sense?.. of course..unless theres another story of old somewhere.. :/but i think its just the way Damien stretches out "o" in that verse. on the album you can hear O perfectly fine. |
Yeah, me too, I always thought it was 'read me a story of old' as well. I'm sure it is. How Damien's probably laughing to think we are all trying to discern some deep connection between his lyrics anda classic seventiesstory of female submission (also made into a very famous film)... he probablyvisits the boards from time to time.
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ahh he wouldnt laught at us. we're his dear and faithfull followers! lol..plus one cant help but think it does since he names the album O and then makes a reference to it in Amie. and hmm.. i wonder if he does check the boards. i heard a while ago that Lisa was a member. of course, one cant be really sure. mhmm.. [love ya Damien!!![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] come to south florida dammit!!(just in case if he's peeking in =/ )] |
I'm sure it's fair to say that the main lyrical controversy about Amie is that it's nigh-on impossible to sing along to it without wanting to sing 'Amie, come sit on my... face'.
Sorry, but it's true. We were all thinking it, I just happened to say it. |
can i ask a question? why does everyone get so wrapped up in the story of o and interpretations of everything? i just enjoy the music. |
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ah..i can only speak for myself, but im very much into thedepth and the "meaning behind the meanings" of lyrics.i like to know exactly what the artist or poet or writer (or whoever)is thinking about whenhe writes and if it correlates to anything else.it helps meunderstand better. i like to think of it as trying to walk intheir shoes. either that or.. im just too damn curious. :/ |
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i totally agree w/ ya tania [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img] |
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I thought that maybe DRs album was in reference to this book as well at first Tania! I haven't read it, but have heard a lot about it. Although I think his album has nothing to do with the book, I do think that they share a common theme: the implicit pain in love; the sometimes delicate line between love and pain...I wonder if Damo has ever read it or heard of it? |
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yes! you hit it right on the nail :>! ive been reading from the links that krystian gave above, and that definitely seems to be true. but for the most part, i think that wasjust a coincidencesince Damien claims he's never read the book, likeAngela said. i guess the novel can be obscurely compared with O, if you really want it to, but its not meant to be since Damien hasnt really read it. |
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why? music is made to entertain i believe and unless you know the artist personally i feel its not your business to really have to understand. i know if i was successful i'd want people to enjoy my music but not to completely analyse every word of it. i do write music and only the people i wrote it for or about know what it's all about and most of the time that person's just me. so i guess i just dont understand. sorryhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_2_2.gifEdited by: Aisling |
i dont know about the meaning of a song not being our business. if we're the ones that buy aalbum based on the lyricalcontent and meaning..how can it not be our business? i know im naturallyvery curious, so maybe that has something to do with it.heh..ihonestly dont expect anyone to understand it either. aww cute smiley :) |
Music, like any art form, is about communication. If you write music with lyrics, then they're part of that communication. Sure, it's not your 'duty', as the writer, to ensure they're crystal clear, and they may mean something very personal to you, but they are still a form of communication, else why write 'em at all. So we have a right to our interest, though Damien equally would have a right not to explain further.
Anyway was it Barthes or Derrida who divorced meaning from intent? The author is dead, man! Etc. |
I'm currently reading it. Weird I must say.
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