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Rue Saint-Denis 06-04-2007 06:48 PM

Okay, still no message from Gemma.

1) The idea of two separate concerts is a little more realistic.

2) I was thinking that it would be better if it was JUST for eskimos, the purpose of this is to unite eskimos and see the man we adore together.

3) It would only be fair if eskimos that contribute to the concert are the only ones allowed to go. This doesn't cost 5 bucks!

4) This is just an idea, we know there isn't an overwhelming percent chance of Damien accepting.

Rue Saint-Denis 06-04-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dboyd
everything has a cost.. u can't exactly ignore the question "how can i afford this?"

From the money we collect, if there's a superfluous amount we can aid those eskimos that need help. Also, we can choose a location that doesn't cost so much to fly to.

Nine 06-04-2007 07:09 PM

I think this is a fantastic idea in theory. My current job at the moment is organising gigs and booking artists, most on a small scale level, others on the same sort of level as Fionn Regan - nothing as huge as this would be. However, I know a bit about how to go about this sort of thing, so if we need someone to help out with this area of things, even if it's just enquiries, I'd be more than happy to oblige. :wave:

srahman24 06-04-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Accidental Baby
Btw, there's another small problem and it's called Damien Rice. Shouldn't he be... up for it in the first place.

Seriously.

All the planning in the world won't do us any good if he doesn't sign off on the idea (and I'm guessing he's not the most accessible guy anymore).

The rest of it sounds great, in theory.

Timeé 06-04-2007 08:25 PM

Shouldnt we have an environment initiative attached so he signs up straight away? :)

Ships_Were_Sailin 06-04-2007 08:31 PM

good idea, ill go take a seal hostage

Timeé 06-04-2007 08:38 PM

can we just have the concert at my house and raise awareness about a few of my farmer neighbours who pollute the lake by washing their tractors in it?
we have our own stream so our water isnt infected or anything.

LaurenM 06-04-2007 09:48 PM

I think we should pay. It sounds like a lot of people would be willing to contribute, and I think if we could raise enough money, it is possible. Damien cand decide whether or not he gives the money to a charity. That is completely up to him. I don't think it is a good idea to tell him what to do with the money though.

I also think he is more accessible than you think. I don't think he's the type of person who would himself unaccessible or surrounded by a posse. He's a regular guy, just like all of us, and a really giving one at that. I don't think he would be that opposed to the idea. I know he works hard, and tours for very long periods of time, so I don't think asking him to do it for free is a good idea.

Also, as far as the technological factor, some of the money may need to go into hiring someone to make this all happen. Of course any eskimo volunteer would be supremely appreciated, we may need to invest in that.

In addition, I'm going to start a petition (aka another thread) to Damien, and it would be great if you could all write something in it saying why you want this to happen. (I don't have time right now, I'm about to tour some monuments in D.C. but I will do it right when I get back!)

Thanks so much for the overwhelming amount of support!

Rue Saint-Denis 06-04-2007 11:20 PM

Now, we need a very dedicated little eskimo that will go out of his/her way, and will be attending bonnaroo, to mention our project to Damien the 18th.

Well?

tlh235 06-04-2007 11:20 PM

I seen Damien live on May 28th and i never want to see him via computer again. It was the most amazing concert experience i've ever had. 7th row center. He's a genius. The only time i'll ever want to watch Damien other than at a live show is if he would put out a Concert DVD. I want a concert DVD!!!!

nyrice45 06-05-2007 02:04 AM

This is a great idea and worth a shot - theres really nothing to lose

maybe if we did have an official tie-in to a charity org. that we know he supports (people who go/log in pay a certain amount to that group) it might help?

also it sounds like the live stream/multiple concert idea is the only way to please everyone

LaurenM 06-05-2007 03:31 AM

true true nyrice, and i think the livestream is the most practical as well

Valentino 06-05-2007 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrice45
This is a great idea and worth a shot - theres really nothing to lose

maybe if we did have an official tie-in to a charity org. that we know he supports (people who go/log in pay a certain amount to that group) it might help?

also it sounds like the live stream/multiple concert idea is the only way to please everyone

How about we donate all the funds to the "Free Aung San Suu Kyi" campaign? Her story is quite the amazing one and if we can get one step closer to helping the world's only imprisoned Nobel Peace Prize recipient then I think it's definitely worth it.

buddy 06-05-2007 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rue Saint-Denis
Now, we need a very dedicated little eskimo that will go out of his/her way, and will be attending bonnaroo, to mention our project to Damien the 18th.

:hello2:

buddy 06-05-2007 04:41 AM

i think this is turning into a really good idea. and i can see damo being up for something like this.

if we can figure out what it is we actually want (live concert/video stream/some combination of both - and i think the more we talk it out here, the clearer it's becoming) we might have something here.

i have plenty of ideas (and, probably more importantly, plenty of free time) about how to go about making this happen. if we can hammer out the details of what we want, i'd be happy to help make it happen.

FightthegdFight 06-05-2007 04:44 AM

This is a fun idea, but one I doubt will ever happen. Think about these few things before you get ahead of yourself.

1) What good is a live feed? How is that any different than watching Damien on youtube or any other concert stream like KCRW and Coachella?

2) Damien and any other artist is not a juke box to play songs at people request and on demand. I mean this quite seriously, when Damien performs he performs what he wants to do and that makes it special. He'll take audience suggestions I know, but just thinking that he'll play his rare song selections at our request is a bit presumptuous. He is an artist, not a record player.

3) I can't say what the cost will be, but can people on this site really believe that they'd send money to just 1 Eskimo and feel completely safe with them handling thousands of collective Eskimo dollars? You can't make an offer to book an artist without having the money for it. You can't have the money for it with having everyone send it to one person to manage it and count it.

4) The amount it would cost each Eskimo to have this project be realistic would be far more than to just buy ebay front row tickets for his next show in their town. (whether that money is spent on plane tickets, travel, booking Damien, and lodging)

Think about it... Say Damien was $30,000 to book (pure guess) + say $20,000 for venue lights and sound (probably an underestimate). That is $50k. Then it would take 1000 "Core group of eskimos" $50 for a ticket plus their other associated cost. Any more than 1000 people is hardly an intimate show anymore, thus defeating the purpose of the show, right?

5) Everyone is already talking about charities to give this money to....think about what Damien is working towards. Lowering Carbon emissions and fighting global warming. I would imagine he'd want his fans to lower their carbon footprint, so not having 1000+ fans come in on airplanes.

Really, it's a fun idea...but think things through.

Rue Saint-Denis 06-05-2007 05:00 AM

Number one and two are concerning the live stream, if we do the concert then those two cancel out.

Number three is one that I have been thinking about, but have not come up with an answer. any ideas?

As for number four: Yes, this is definitely going to be costly, if it happens, but I think it's well worth it. It won't be like your regular concert because you will also be meeting the people you interact with on the boards. ( just be sure not to talk during the show ;) )

For number five: Aren't the charities Damien's decision?

buddy 06-05-2007 05:20 AM

i don't think it's that far-fetched of an idea. i dunno, maybe it is. but what can it hurt to try?

nyrice45 06-05-2007 07:21 AM

if there was a way for the admins of this site to set up a paypal account for this (once it was determined that it could be done) then that would solve the trust issue with money- for me at least

I do agree a venue etc. would be very costly- especially if people wanted to have more than 1 of these things in different continents-

however, i do think the livestream might work if the logistics could be worked out

- it would be different from youtube because itd be live and something only for the fans - i mean if you sent out a youtube link maybe half the people here would check it out- but if this livestream happened im sure almost everyone would be interested -

-it wouldn't be something where you give him a list of songs- itd be his decision what to play but we'd hope that he would know his audience and do some stuff we might not see at a regular gig-

Maybe it wont work- but its not going to hurt anyone to find out- so theres no reason not to try

Valentino 06-05-2007 07:24 AM

1) What good is a live feed? How is that any different than watching Damien on youtube or any other concert stream like KCRW and Coachella?

Let's see...how about the fact that unlike Coachella or KCRW, we'll actually be able to submit our own interview questions and song requests. And yes, not all questions or requests are subject to be carried out completely but the fact that we are organizing this event and that our voice will be heard is what matters here. Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to know that the question he's answering is the one YOU submitted?

2) Damien and any other artist is not a juke box to play songs at people request and on demand. I mean this quite seriously, when Damien performs he performs what he wants to do and that makes it special. He'll take audience suggestions I know, but just thinking that he'll play his rare song selections at our request is a bit presumptuous. He is an artist, not a record player.

We already know this bro. But once again the main point is that by reading our requests perhaps Damien will think twice about playing a certain rare song *cough *cough *What do you Know about Love?* Yes, this is highly unlikely but there's no reason to not try.

3) I can't say what the cost will be, but can people on this site really believe that they'd send money to just 1 Eskimo and feel completely safe with them handling thousands of collective Eskimo dollars? You can't make an offer to book an artist without having the money for it. You can't have the money for it with having everyone send it to one person to manage it and count it.

I mentioned in an earlier post that we should conduct our business with PayPal since they're so highly reputable and trusted by millions world-wide. At this moment, the only person I think should be in charge of all the funds is the site admin. But this is purely his decision and there's no pressure to comply.

4) The amount it would cost each Eskimo to have this project be realistic would be far more than to just buy ebay front row tickets for his next show in their town. (whether that money is spent on plane tickets, travel, booking Damien, and lodging)

Think about it... Say Damien was $30,000 to book (pure guess) + say $20,000 for venue lights and sound (probably an underestimate). That is $50k. Then it would take 1000 "Core group of eskimos" $50 for a ticket plus their other associated cost. Any more than 1000 people is hardly an intimate show anymore, thus defeating the purpose of the show, right?


That's a good point near the end about the whole intimacy factor. But I think at this point it's quite perfectly clear that a live stream is the most practical idea. What can be more intimate than watching Damien in your boxers/panties/lingerie...Lauren comes to mind :smiley2:...I would still like to be in Damien's presence should this definitely carry out but maybe we can have the option of where some people are actually at the concert while it's being streamed for the rest of the world online? I like that.

5) Everyone is already talking about charities to give this money to....think about what Damien is working towards. Lowering Carbon emissions and fighting global warming. I would imagine he'd want his fans to lower their carbon footprint, so not having 1000+ fans come in on airplanes.

Really, it's a fun idea...but think things through.


We have, and it's still in progress thank you very much. Look pal, my intention was never to disrespect or offend your views, only to look at them from a more optimistic standpoint. The live stream would take care of any of the Global Warming advocates and I'm sure that there is still enough time to properly plan this thing. And to all you bigwigs out there claiming to be in contact with Damien *cough *cough HENDRIK *cough whether it be through a personal relationship or a friend who knows his mailman's pet groomer's sister's ex-lover who owns a dealership that sits on the land belonging to Kobe Bryant's tax attorney (inhale) put your words and connections into action and let's see how well you can play your part. Peace.

Lin@ 06-05-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentino
At this moment, the only person I think should be in charge of all the funds is the site admin.

Btw, where is he? I'd love to know what he thinks about all this.

Quote:

maybe we can have the option of where some people are actually at the concert while it's being streamed for the rest of the world online?
That's in my opinion the only way the whole thing would work. I mean, can you imagine Damien playing to a non-present audience and talking into a camera just for us eskimos to be able to watch him via live stream? I don't think so. So there MUST be some kind of a "real" concert in a real venue with real eskimos. And I think it would be great if we could keep it as small as possible. Do we really need all the equipment, light show etc.? And when we are talking about Damien Rice, are we actually talking about Damien Rice, the singer/songwriter or are we talking about Damien Rice, the band? Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the whole band, but I'd really be happy with just seeing Damo with his guitar. Doing an unplugged show. Or something like that... And that would probably be much less complicated to organize, I suppose.

Martine 06-05-2007 10:02 AM

Before shooting a whole bunch of great ideas, it's nice to know if he'll think about it.
If it's a no for sure, then everything stops.
But if it's a yes, you can shoot ideas.

Although I think you must have some ideas to make it attractive ;)

Ships_Were_Sailin 06-05-2007 11:15 AM

the more i think about it the more i think we shouldl go the whole nine yards and try getting a concert, of course it will take a hell of a lot of time but it is doable.

because like the other guy said, a livestream is just like watching a youtube video, if we are going to do that, lets compile a bunch of youtube vids and watch them together :P

Nine 06-05-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LaurenBledsoe

Also, as far as the technological factor, some of the money may need to go into hiring someone to make this all happen. Of course any eskimo volunteer would be supremely appreciated, we may need to invest in that.

I'll do it for free once we get the go ahead that we definitely want to try :)

ZachC 06-05-2007 02:03 PM

ok i have another idea outside the box , ill rent ONE huge bus and come pick everyone up in the US ... therefore reducing flying and everyone else driving ... then we will all just go to the US side concert ... ok enough of my outside the box thinking

happy2bhere 06-05-2007 02:08 PM

Would be fantastic if it worked out....heres hoping!

Timeé 06-05-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Valentino
What can be more intimate than watching Damien in your boxers/panties/lingerie...Lauren comes to mind :smiley2:....

Easy bud i've thought through that one already :smiley17: . . . . . . . . .
AS i was saying! my house! .

nah. Can we have a poll to decide whether it be a live stream or a concert? i vote concert. i know its pretty hard but...it'd be worth it. As for cost for a private show...would lights, sound not be an issue because itd be just unplugged? (this is hypothetical)

J.M.C 06-05-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by colibriink
No, but wouldn't it be great to exclude the people who

a) answer their cell phones during a concert...
b) try and take pictures with their cell phones...
c) yell out "Amie" or "Creep" over and over and over...

Edit:

d) see Dangana's post below for d)
e) scalp tickets outside venues

and wouldn't it be great to have Corey Byrnes be the official photographer, so no one else would have to mess around with noisy and distracting digital cameras and flashes, and we would end up with FANTASTIC photos - he's amazing!!

Christa



Well how do you know people on this site dont do that ? also how do you know the person who signed up yesterday to come to this concert isnt that type of person how do you draw the line?

Nine 06-05-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timeé
Easy bud i've thought through that one already :smiley17: . . . . . . . . .
AS i was saying! my house! .

nah. Can we have a poll to decide whether it be a live stream or a concert? i vote concert. i know its pretty hard but...it'd be worth it. As for cost for a private show...would lights, sound not be an issue because itd be just unplugged? (this is hypothetical)

I vote both. I'll make a poll.

colibriink 06-05-2007 04:41 PM

good point
 
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Originally Posted by J.M.C
Well how do you know people on this site dont do that ? also how do you know the person who signed up yesterday to come to this concert isnt that type of person how do you draw the line?

I don't. But maybe we could make some rules. :) People swear to abide by them or they don't get in...

We could also do a poll about our behaviour at DR's concerts:

"Has anyone currently posting in this forum ever yelled out 'Where's Lisa??'"

"Has anyone currently posting in this forum ever yelled out 'Play Creep!!'

"Has anyone " " " " " " ever answered their cell phone?"

My response: No. No. And no!

Closing_Doors 06-05-2007 04:53 PM

Bags playing support :p :D

J.M.C 06-05-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by colibriink
I don't. But maybe we could make some rules. :) People swear to abide by them or they don't get in...

We could also do a poll about our behaviour at DR's concerts:

"Has anyone currently posting in this forum ever yelled out 'Where's Lisa??'"

"Has anyone currently posting in this forum ever yelled out 'Play Creep!!'

"Has anyone " " " " " " ever answered their cell phone?"

My response: No. No. And no!


I really want to go to a Damien Rice concert so yes I am going to admitt I shouted out wheres lisa and waved my phone around to cannonball
there is people you dont like in life, you cant just exclude them because of that.

I really dont think this will work on any level unless its a stream and then setting up a stream everyone can view isnt problem free.

J.M.C 06-05-2007 05:11 PM

The only way I think it can be done is because Damien knows about eskimofriends and the good work it does to promote his name so maybe MAYBE emett could do a sort of competion were every members name goes into a hat and 200 people or so get picked out for them to go see him at a small venue which will be in the country with the most random winners.

You would have to get Damien to do it for free or very little to promote the site or to get money to charity some how.

How ever its done its rife with problems.

Looking at a concert venue for everyone on this site though is completly out the question.

colibriink 06-05-2007 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.M.C
I really want to go to a Damien Rice concert so yes I am going to admitt I shouted out wheres lisa and waved my phone around to cannonball
there is people you dont like in life, you cant just exclude them because of that.

LOL well then, hopefully, you got it out of your system.

If we did a 'serious fans only concert', do you think it's too much to ask of people to put their cell phones away? (serious question)

I think it would be wonderful to attend a concert surrounded by people who know enough about Damien Rice and his dislikes (the photo-taking, ppl talking, answering cellphones etc) that they would be able to be respectful during an entire concert. What do you think?

J.M.C 06-05-2007 06:28 PM

well I was being sarcastic saying anyone could just lie and say they dont do that, they wont admitt it.

Rue Saint-Denis 06-05-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.M.C
The only way I think it can be done is because Damien knows about eskimofriends and the good work it does to promote his name so maybe MAYBE emett could do a sort of competion were every members name goes into a hat and 200 people or so get picked out for them to go see him at a small venue which will be in the country with the most random winners.

You would have to get Damien to do it for free or very little to promote the site or to get money to charity some how.

How ever its done its rife with problems.

Looking at a concert venue for everyone on this site though is completly out the question.


Why a raffle DOES NOT work: Let's say the winner lives in South America, or Japan. The majority of Eskimos live in North America and Europe. That would mean we would ALL have to travel to that location, and that costs more. The location can easily be done by the amount of popularity, that way we would have less traveling.

Valentino 06-06-2007 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.M.C
The only way I think it can be done is because Damien knows about eskimofriends and the good work it does to promote his name so maybe MAYBE emett could do a sort of competion were every members name goes into a hat and 200 people or so get picked out for them to go see him at a small venue which will be in the country with the most random winners.

You would have to get Damien to do it for free or very little to promote the site or to get money to charity some how.

How ever its done its rife with problems.

Looking at a concert venue for everyone on this site though is completly out the question.

No. There is absolutely no way I will let my attendance be left to chance. I don't mind paying the extra cash it takes to help set this thing up nor the extra funds required for travel expenses. With the hat thing, there's a really good chance that several people who didn't contribute a thing will able to go while those who actually contributed their time and money are left with nothing but disappointment. What if your name isn't called, would you be perfectly alright with that? Didn't think so.

Look pal, I admire your effort but let's seriously think about methods that will not only get this thing off the ground as soon as Damien decides to approve it (should he approve it of course) but also ideas that benefit those who worked hard for it. Probablilty in relation with concert attendance is archaic at best so let's rule this one out for sure.

J.M.C 06-06-2007 09:25 AM

valentino I am a realist and you cant just go picking the people you want to go and were you want to have it and how do you draw the line to who contributed and who didnt I am sorry but this is all bull**** and even if it did happen I wouldnt want to go anywhere near it.

Its a nice dream to go to his concert with only people you like but that all it is a little dream.

I Rememeber a man a few years ago who tried to exclude all the people he dint feel were good enough I think his name Adolf.
x

Ps you say how would you feel if my name want called out?
well how would the person in Japan feel who you think lives too far away.

deal135 06-06-2007 11:02 AM

has anyone actually received a response from any emails they've sent out yet?

J.M.C 06-06-2007 11:11 AM

I would guess defo not, Damien basicly plays a gig every night I am guessing his time off is very valuble to his mental health.


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