The Igloo - Gamete Disease

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Timeé

07-25-2006 10:26 PM

Gamete Disease

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Gametes, from the ancient Greek γαμετης (spouse), are the specialized germ cells that come together during fertilization (conception) in organisms that reproduce sexually. The creation of gametes is called gametogenesis, in which gametocytes divide by meiosis into various gametes. In those species that produce two morphologically distinct types of gametes, and in which a particular individual produces only one type; "females" of the species produce the larger gamete called an ovum (or egg) and "males" produce the smaller gamete termed (in animals) a spermatozoon (or sperm cell). The equivalent "male" structure in higher plants is called a pollen grain. Organs that produce gametes are called gonads in animals, and archegonia or antheridia in plants.

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In other words for people like me who wont even read this ****e,
Gamete disease is the production of bad sperm cells.

INTERESTING POINT:
when you google "gamete disease", 8 out of the 10 search results are references to damien's The Professor La Fille Danse either through lyrics or otherwise

brookefield

07-25-2006 11:12 PM

two gametes come together to make a zygote-a.k.a. fertilization-a.k.a. having a baby. all gametes produced by women (eggs) are female, or X gametes. males however produce both female-X, and male-Y gametes (sperm). as the Y gamete is specific to males only (where as both men and women have X gametes), i'm thinking that damien's "gamete disease" is representative of all males in general. so he's pretty much saying that every one with a yolk is essentially worthless. damien is a wise man...

i don't think he's necessarily talking about him having defective sperm...

Timeé

07-25-2006 11:19 PM

maybe he tried to have kids

Windgirl

07-26-2006 01:52 AM

I've never taken it so literally, "bombed by my excellent breed of gamete's disease", It's something inherent. It's natrual, it's natrual not to understand as it's as natrual for this girl to laugh and cry. It's natrual for him to mess up again. It's natrual for humans to mess up, because whether we literally have a gamete's disease, we all have natrual flawes which are bound to trip us up in a sense. idk I might be thinking to hard. I love this song.

SisterMidnight

07-26-2006 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brookefield

hmm that's interesting, because i've heard men say that damien's music is negative toward women (woman like a man, etc.) but i never really agreed with that either.. i always switch genders when i listen to songs anyway so woman like a man is about a man (an actual one, because it suits him) when i listen to it..

and maybe it's not literally about defective sperm, but what if it's about impotency? (literal or metaphorical, physical or emotional)

"lovin is good if your dick's made of wood, and the dick left inside only half understood her"

hmm...

AL-X	07-26-2006 06:54 AM

it's funny because i'm majoring in health studies and my roommate is a biology major and whenever we hear that line we give a little chuckle because gamete disease is just nonsensical term (no offence to Damien). I guess Damien just wanted to make some sort of reference to genetics. I wouldn't dig too deep into the meaning of that line because any definition you derive from that is really stretching it, in my opinion. I say just take it as it is and enjoy the rest of the song because it IS still an amazing song (one of my faves actually)!

carvinC980t_kid

07-26-2006 08:13 AM

i looked that up when i first heard this song a long time ago and what i thought it was about was more of saying how he ruined a relationship because he is not infertial, but unable to work with others maybe. not the production of bad sperm, but bad relationships. but it is just a far fetched thought, but it always seemed to make sense to me... maybe if i didn't suck at explaining it.

Miss Pink

07-26-2006 11:38 AM

here's another relationship bombed by my excellent breed to gamete disease

maybe he cheated, his yoke has a disease of cheating (im not saying damien but just a general he) meybe he thought he was bad with his yoke, i dunno. its a savage line tho

brookefield

07-26-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Pink

its a savage line tho

well said. it is rather savage, but sort of beautiful in its cutting honesty...

dizzy cannon

07-26-2006 01:18 PM

yeah i've always thought that gametes disease was him referring to having a Y chromosome

corkboyinexile

07-26-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brookefield

well said. it is rather savage, but sort of beautiful in its cutting honesty...

I dont think miss pink meant 'savage' as in brutal, but as good or great, its an irish thing

brookefield

07-26-2006 07:52 PM

(blushing)...oh.

well i still think its rather savage, as in

"my hope is that your last living sensation be that of a steel rod being shoved repeatedly up your insides, so that it batters your heart and punctures your stomach."

kind of savage. its an angry american thing.

Cali	07-26-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brookefield

i'm thinking that damien's "gamete disease" is representative of all males in general. so he's pretty much saying that every one with a yolk is essentially worthless. damien is a wise man...

that's exactly what i've always thought about that song

Miss Pink

07-26-2006 10:07 PM

yeah savage = cool in ireland

but its is UURGGGG savage too, rather insulting to the person its about if u get me

Timeé

07-26-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Pink

erm i think that he actually was telling the truth - he doesnt know what it means!!! although......... now i think on it..... he did say "breed" thence the sperm

Miss Pink

07-26-2006 10:54 PM

im sorry but you have just confused the fúck out of me

Timeé

07-26-2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Pink

im sorry but you have just confused the fúck out of me

okay. well you know how he says

"Heres to another relationship bombed by my excellent breed of gamete disease
im sure when im older i'll know what that means"

then maybe he doesnt know what it means!!

but then he says excellent 'breed' probably referencing the sperm cells.

if you dont understand this time explain which part

brookefield

07-27-2006 02:33 AM

i like you, miss pink and cali....

you're very nicely eskimos.

SisterMidnight

07-27-2006 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AL-X

hehe that made me chuckle.. sweetie offering our interpretations and analyzing lyrics is what we do here.. well some of us quite enjoy it anyway :)

and i don't see why he would just throw out random genetic terminology.. there's obviously meaning behind it, maybe it's very 'inside' to the point of being hermetic but i doubt that it's meaningless.. plus that line of the song has always intrigued me, so good on ya tim for the topic! you are right though al-x it IS an amazing song, so rich with metaphors and such..

so anybody got a take on what finishing it off with some french wine and cheese might mean? ;)

Miss Pink

07-27-2006 09:41 AM

well sister, in my expert opinion i believe that french wine and cheese is a metaphor for the world ending by mass tea suicide

hehehe....

carvinC980t_kid

07-27-2006 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Pink

well sister, in my expert opinion i believe that french wine and cheese is a metaphor for the world ending by mass tea suicide

hehehe....

wow, i think you have stumbled upon something amazing! : :hello2:

Miss Pink

07-27-2006 10:13 PM

i am the master of all time

Yetzirah

07-27-2006 10:42 PM

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