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mestonf 08-24-2004 01:44 PM

just been searching for some damo material on ebay.......(gonna get one of those cool ozzy tour posters)

and look at the amount of bootlegs being sold...this infuriates me and it isn't the first time it has been mentioned......people if you see one all help in the effort to report them to ebay

Thanks
Felix


This is what e-bay say about bootlegs.....they are PROHIBITEDEdited by: mestonf

mestonf 08-24-2004 09:27 PM

right well i e-mailed this bloke selling 4 consequetive bootlegs. This is what i said


Dear garya125,

sorry mate to say this but i don't no what you are playing at selling bootlegs is ILLEGAL on e-bay...all of these Damo shows you are selling i
have on my computer which i recieved for FREE!
Anybody with more intelligence than a goldfish (sorry to insult them!)

i wouldn't buy these!!



he returned with:

yeah i recieved them for free to..... minds of a goldfish they have...


I replied back with :

so why are you selling them ?

surely thats disrespectful to Damien Rice and this is what E-bay say about them http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/bootlegs.html

have a look



this then came back:


cos i am in debt and i need to make money.... why are you concerned?


then i sent this here comes the funny bit!!! heheheh!



right well i'm just a member of the damien rice fan society and we have to keep a check on people who are illegally making money out of bootlegs which are just copied CD's. The reason we do this is because few artists allow bootlegging and recording at gigs but Damien does. If this privilage is abused then he might not let his fans do it. Those are the consequences



i have just recieved this fairly rude e-mail


yeah.... damien has actually comented on it.. like ryan adams and counting
crows that they do not mind... damien does understand people trying to make
money as he did busk... dont give me your talk, cos i dont wanna hear it.
and dont talk down to me kid.






















twat!

Gazel 08-24-2004 09:30 PM

I like the sound of theDamien Rice Fan Societyhttp://www.eskimofriends.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

mestonf 08-24-2004 09:33 PM

lol [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] yeah thats the funny part!

he just replied with this to me

your doing your job? thats how sad you are.... did damien employ you to
search ebay AND BEYOND like star wars for people selling bootlegs.... do
you have a little stick that lights up???

mestonf 08-24-2004 09:34 PM

so i said yeah i do have a light saber! and just reported him to e-bay! sucker!

Gazel 08-24-2004 09:36 PM



Quote:

Originally Posted by mestonf
lol [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] yeah thats the funny part!

he just replied with this to me

your doing your job? thats how sad you are.... did damien employ you to
search ebay AND BEYOND like star wars for people selling bootlegs.... do
you have a little stick that lights up???


he's not the brightest is he[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

mestonf 08-24-2004 09:37 PM

nope sure isn't!

cille 08-24-2004 09:41 PM



good job, felix - how does one email him? i'd love to give him some too... just to let him know there isn't just one bloke going on about it...


oooh, and where's his add?Edited by: cillecille

Angela 08-24-2004 10:54 PM



Quote:

Originally Posted by mestonf
so i said yeah i do have a light saber! and just reported him to e-bay! sucker!


You are too kind. I don't even bother emailing them. I just report them. [img]smileys/smiley30.gif[/img]*draws stick with little lights on*

Bumpman 08-24-2004 11:50 PM

Yeah, look at THIS horsesh*t: [img]smileys/smiley7.gif[/img]

can someone report this to ebay (or just tell me how to do it) i dont know how...

Angela 08-25-2004 12:10 AM



Use the link Felix provided in the first message.If you go to that page you'll see a link for reporting bootlegs.


You don't need to write much. Keep in mind they get hundreds such reports each day, so keep it short and sweet.

Bumpman 08-25-2004 12:15 AM

yeah, but im not signed up, and you need to know someone with a credit card who wants to give you their credit card numbers in order to sign up... which i don't [img]smileys/smiley19.gif[/img]

wilbie 08-25-2004 12:43 AM



what a c**t, everyone report him.

cnpubwear 08-25-2004 03:43 AM



I like to email the buyers, this is what i sent them


you can get this and other damien shows for free, by trading them or doing a BnP (sending blanks and postage to another fan who will copy it for you and send it to you free) The guy selling the show is not the person who recorded it most tapers want there shows shared for free and actually despise people who sell them on ebay.


for more info you can email me or visit damienricetrading.tk or the traders board on eskimofriends.com

Angela 08-25-2004 06:06 AM



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpman
yeah, but im not signed up, and you need to know someone with a credit card who wants to give you their credit card numbers in order to sign up... which i don't [img]smileys/smiley19.gif[/img]


Oh. Well, just let us know if you see another one. I reported him, too.


Though, you know, the sellers with a low feedback number are sometimes new and don't know the rules too well, so in that case I'd probably also let the seller know first.

Angela 08-25-2004 06:11 AM



Quote:

Originally Posted by cnpubwear
I like to email the buyers, this is what i sent them


I can't find the reference now, but I'm pretty sure that it is illegal for an eBay member to contact other bidders, even if it is to warn them of a potential rip-off. Just so you are aware of it.

Daniel 08-25-2004 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpman
Yeah, look at THIS horsesh*t: [img]smileys/smiley7.gif[/img]

can someone report this to ebay (or just tell me how to do it) i dont know how...

nice cover design though.

framesaver 08-25-2004 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpman
Yeah, look at THIS horsesh*t: [img]smileys/smiley7.gif[/img]

can someone report this to ebay (or just tell me how to do it) i dont know how...


Scumbag - That's my recording. (And artwork).

Daniel 08-25-2004 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by framesaver
That's my recording. (And artwork)

and what nice artwork it is!

framesaver 08-25-2004 08:32 AM

Emailed him thus:

Dear Gary,

I have been informed that you are selling this recording on ebay. I would like you to realise that I personally made this recording and made it available to be FREELY distributed and traded. NOT to be sold. I appreciate that you're maybe strapped for cash, but I would be obliged if you'd take this auction down. If you do not, I will be forced to contact the bidder and inform him that I will send him a copy for free.

I know I may sound a little draconian, I just do not appreciate other people making money from recordings that take my time, effort and money to produce. What you are doing is against ebay regulations and I hope I will not have to report you to them as well.

sonofelvis 08-25-2004 08:58 AM

this thread just reminded me to pay for something on ebay, thanks!!

mestonf 08-25-2004 09:58 AM

i found this last night people

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m&category=157 2&item=4032921499&rd=1

£50!!! Thank god no one has started bidding...these are all from the same guy!
We should all e-mail saying we are from the "Damien Rice Fan Society" that'll scare him!

THank you for your support eskimos I just don't like people taking advantage of my eskimo friends! but i'm sure e-bay will stop him soon!

Libby 08-25-2004 11:12 AM



Good spotting Felix.


Right, if everyone who read this thread can email Ebay to report the loser then maybe we can do something to stop him.


Damien Rice Fan Society,unite, gather thee light sabres and conquer the world.[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

mestonf 08-25-2004 11:15 AM

thats certainly a good idea libby! Get those light sabers people!!!

mestonf 08-25-2004 11:18 AM

.......just sent another e-mail to be on the safe side!

Enoch 08-25-2004 12:10 PM

I'm confused [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]why do people buy these things in the first place when fan websites have trading forums?

mestonf 08-25-2004 12:34 PM

yeah it is a bit silly really!

Angela 08-25-2004 02:28 PM



Quote:

Originally Posted by Enoch
I'm confused [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]why do people buy these things in the first place when fan websites have trading forums?


Because most people don't know about trading, are intimidated by it, don't pursue it because they have nothing to trade (and don't know about B&P), because there's an established culture of selling bootlegs in some countries or because most people don't have the time to bother with trading.

cille 08-25-2004 09:44 PM



ok, i sent this email to the guy in question:


>To: gary_
>Subject: ebay bootlegs
>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:27:42 -0700 (PDT)

hi there!

i see you are selling bootlegs with damien rice on ebay + offering

what kind of a person are you, exploiting both the artists who are so
kind
to let ppl tape their shows + the people who buy it???

stop it or i'll report you to ebay!

BW, cille.



and got this reply:


the artists dont care, damien has commented several times that he
doesnt
care, and im makeing people happy... im like santa claus.



sweettalkin's over - time to report him!!![img]smileys/smiley7.gif[/img]santa claus my ass... he'd be santa claus if he gave it away.

cille 08-25-2004 10:09 PM



ok, here's the reply i just sent him:
<DIV>you have GOT to be kidding, right? then santa's making a lot of money on the 'gifts' he's giving this year! it would be much more santa'ish to actually let ppl know how to trade damien stuff for free - can't you see??? oh, and damien never agreed to let others sell his work - only free trading. and officially he doesn't even allow that, from what i've heard from some tapers. what you (and others selling bootlegs) are doing can make him get much more actively restrictive in the future, and that would be a great loss for us who love to listen to the developments and emotiveness of his live performances.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>anywhoo, i'll report your sorry ass and keep an eye on you in the future - what you're doing isn't just exploitative, it's also illegal. get that, santa?</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>cille.</DIV>


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