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Old 05-07-2012, 08:00 PM   #291
mario_d
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No there is nothing professional about it nor was it the smartest decision he could've made. But in the end he is just a person and sometimes he also makes a dumb decision. Also don't forget they were a couple so the argument went waaaay waaay deeper than just purely the professional level you're speaking in.
Stop excusing the fact that he did something extremely unprofessional and disrespectful. Its what he did, end of sentence. There's no "he was an asshole but!"


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He quit because the band followed the producers advice and made music the way the producer liked it (a commercial way). As i touched on this before Damien has been very clear about the fact that he only writes his music for him hence the reason why he could not follow his band members in their agreement with the producers. Which if you look at the situation was a perfectly natural thing to do. If you're in a group/band and they go a direction you don't feel comfortable following in you shouldn't. It has nothing to do with team play.
No, thats what a contract is. You promise to do something and are obligated to do so. If he wanted to be able to run away whenever he wanted, he should've left the band before he signed a contract.

And, no, when you are a part of a group, you have to go with the group as a whole. A well-balanced individual sacrifices his personal opinions and is a team player. He doesn't take his ball and go home.


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Yes because personally i am not familiarly with the facts of this claim. Either way i don't see the importance of it anyway. So he didn't credit them... so what?
The facts are the facts. There are songs Juniper wrote and when BellX1 puts them on an album, they give him songwriter credit (Tongue, Volcano). When Damien uses them for an album, he doesn't include them. Its disrespectful, it costs them money, and its one of the scummiest things a musician can do.

These are the ASCAP filings:

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?..._pp=25&start=1

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?..._pp=25&start=1


Here's a full list of ASCAP filings Damien is listed on. You'll see everytime BellX1 played a song from Juniper, they credited Damien along with them. You'll also see that Damien has filed those songs and listed himself as the sole songwriter.
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