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Originally Posted by Spamlet
YES. I stand by what I said. That what you guys wrote smacks of racism. That, by definition, means it suggests without being blatently stated (like, oh I dunno, wearing a KKK outfit). The vast majority of racist behavior takes the more covert form but is no less damaging. You two alternately stated that people who communicated in the manner of the examples you gave were "stupid". You claimed one had to "turn their brain off" in order to speak that way. Now please explain to me why exactly you make fun of people who talk like that? Is it only when they aren't black? If so, then you admit that there is a racial element to your mockery. If not, then are you saying the speech itself (and, therefore, the black people who created it and perpetuated its spread) is "stupid"? Which is it? Either way you look at it, racism is present here.
Where am I crying? I asked you politely and calmly not to discriminate and gave my reasons. The fact that white teenagers have appropriated or co-opted such slang does nothing to diminish the fact that the words and phrases cited were ebonic in their origin. I'm well aware such slang is widespread now but I'm not the one who had a problem with that fact. You are. No distinction was ever made that it is the borrowing of that language, which you now claim, you were objecting to.
But, no. I don't think there's anything inherently racist in "all the white kids" (there goes your stereotyping again) who use such slang to honestly express themselves. If it is used as mockery of the way others talk because you feel superior to them then that's an entirely different story. That's what you admit to doing. That's what I find offensive and ignorant.
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Spamlet,
I commend your politeness in this post and the previous, however i kinda disagree with you. it seems like so many things today that arent racist are called racist and it really is ashame because there are really serious racial issues, against all races, whites, blacks, asians, etc...
Yes the words and phrases are ebonic in their origin but that does not mean that it is racist to mock them, just because you mock something that black people happen to have created doesnt make it racist.
You also commented on how the mocking in this thread obviously infered stupidity on the people that actually do talk that way. And i would have to say that people that do talk that way are not smart in the English language, which means that they are stupid in the english language, everyone who honestly talks like that whether they are white or black or any other race, they cannot speak english in an intelligent manner so the speak it in a stupid manner.
-mike