I saw hwang on Conan a little bit back. Doesn't that count as making it?
Also the crane wives are known around the Midwest. What I meant by established was that they're not just covering him on the family webcam. Except for cannonballs up there I consider all of these actual artists with varying degrees of establishment.
Last edited by Shillelagh; 01-29-2013 at 08:09 AM.
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