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Old 02-10-2010, 06:24 AM   #61
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Thanks ElephantMan for the link and thank you srahman24 for deciphering the lyrics. My only correction would be with the first verse where I remember him saying "Because I have torn apart what's beautiful to prove that nothing lasts" instead of "Because I have torn apart this view before to prove that nothing lasts."
I agree and believe the line everyone's had trouble with is either "and call up faith to finally say", "and cull faith to finally say" or (least likely) "and collect faith to finally say".

Overall, I do like the song- less for the overly familiar chords/strum pattern than for the lovely melody and powerful lyrics (is that a hat tip to GnR's magnificent "Catcher in the Rye" perchance?)

As for Julia, i think she's actually got a lovely voice and think A) she's likely not even a professional singer but rather a fan or someone whom he met recently. He has a history of bringing unknown folks/fans etc up for a chance to sing with him like that. They're often understandably intimidated and nervous. B) The contrast was intentional. Let him get loud and emotional and let her be the opposite. I thought it was quite effective.

Speaking of fans, I wonder what it was like for Damo meeting such a huge influence as Thom. Do you think the "10 Days to Barcelona" trip came up? I wonder if they'd ever duet on "BD2/Creep"...
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:59 AM   #62
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Here are some photos from the performance that I took.

As is so often when Damien performs, the room was dead silent and I was in the second row. So not to be rude and to enjoy the performance, holstered my camera most of the song. Thus, the photos are not very dynamic. Basically I took two series of shots on continuous shooting, they were taken at the peak of the song while the crowd was clapping and just as he was finishing up the song.

Please enjoy, but don't use without permission.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fightth...7623272085303/





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Old 02-10-2010, 07:33 AM   #63
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-In terms of the movie, I'm still not sure what to make of it. Unlike a lot of documentaries, it does not have a well structured argument. It was more of an awareness raising film since it showsthe various points of views on the situation in Tibet. It displays the wide spectrum of various people/party's beliefs, but it left me without a great sense of direction or hope.

Visually the movie was stunning and it had a great score. On the down side, I felt that it was a bit too long and slightly unorganized. But then again, that's just my opinion. If you're looking to understand the full scope of the Tibet situation, this is not the answer. If you are looking for a fresh perspective on the situation from key players, this is definitely a must watch.

-I didn't notice the Thom Yorke contribution.

-As for the studio version of "what if i'm wrong," the movie only played about a minute and a half of the song about 80% of the way through the video. The beginning starts with some monks in the vein of cold water. I'd be curious to hear the whole song.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:50 AM   #64
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wow thanks for the pics, amazing spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!

and yep, I've heard/read in different places that the weakest point of the movie is the editing... which might still be fixed if the movie opens in theatres...
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:29 PM   #65
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Here are some photos from the performance that I took.

oh, gosh! he´s looking straight at you (or it seems so... i know how it feels )... and he looks like if he was (!!!) tall, hehe.
thanks for the pics and review. glad you had such an amazing time
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:10 PM   #66
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This song tells me that Damien lives musically.
He is so right to sing that "what if I am wrong" song.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:34 PM   #67
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i get why you're saying this, but some songs don't sound that good anymore, without Lisa.. ( I Remember, Then Go, The Professor, 9 Crimes, Cross-Eyed Bear, Is That It My Friend, .. ) but in the same time.. The Power of Orange Knickers doesn't sound that good without Tori Amos as well ( though it's mostly Tori Amos in that song ).. so it can be anyone singing the female part, even Julia.. we still need to see what is she capable of, before we give our approvals
'I remember' sounds just as good..so does 'the professor'.....
9crimes...without Lisa...sounds MUCH BETTER...if u dont believe ..go on you tube and find some Live videos (maybe not all) when he screams NO NO.......without Lisa

he performs Volcano live just as well...Cold water maybe an exception
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:48 PM   #68
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any luck finding who that Julia is? The voice sounds very very much like Julia Stone (of Angus & Julia Stone), you know, a bit like too much helium but she's not blonde afaik

and Spamlet, I think it was just Damien there, no Thom Yorke...
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:46 PM   #69
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Yes, this is true. Damien was the only musical artist invited to perform that day but I'm sure he's met Thom by now. Perhaps they ran into each other when the film makers were conducting the recording session for the musical score. And then, in a spark of inspiration, they both agreed to write a song together and record it on the spot!

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'I remember' sounds just as good..so does 'the professor'.....
9crimes...without Lisa...sounds MUCH BETTER...if u dont believe ..go on you tube and find some Live videos (maybe not all) when he screams NO NO.......without Lisa

he performs Volcano live just as well...Cold water maybe an exception
I gotta say, I've seen a lot of videos with him by himself. and most of the time I really don't miss lisa that much. in terms of "I Remember" I think I'm just too use to the sweetness she adds to it, I miss her on that one. but everything else, I could live without.. I love "nine crimes" by himself. love love love..
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:35 PM   #71
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'Cold water maybe an exception
my thoughts too... oh, and then go, there's no way it sounds good enough without lisa.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:47 AM   #72
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Im glad you've posted the link. Amazing! Very much like seeing an old friend you love dearly after a extended absence from them. you're happy, want to cry. amazing lyrics. i just keep hitting replay. As for Julia, no she's not Lisa, but I do like her voice. Not so much jazz like Lisa but still very pretty. Does anyone have a mp3 of, or know where to purchase, this performance?

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Old 02-11-2010, 02:41 AM   #73
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Great photos!
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Old 02-11-2010, 03:47 AM   #74
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Yes, I meant they must've met at least once at some point since agreeing to work on the film. I know this isn't the first time both acts have been involved with the same causes or played the same festival but I think something so involving as scoring is a whole different level of interaction.
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^would be an interesting meeting. I have this theory that the success of Damien is partially due to O being the perfect followup to OK Computer that Yorke never delivered... but Damien did instead. So he stole all the purist Radiohead fans that didn't like the post-OK Computer change of musical direction
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oh........Beautiful ....!!!!!
Thanks to sharing!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:49 PM   #77
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it gets better with each listen it's brilliant lyrics-wise. I can't wait to hear the studio version!
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:15 AM   #78
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As far as melody, this song could use some work.

As far as meaning, this song gave me the chills. Stunning lyrics. Damien's voice sounds INCREDIBLE. Plus, it actually sounds like a Damien Rice song! Hallelujah!

The girl at the end sounded like a thirteen-year-old who won a "Sing with Damien Rice" contest at her school. The only thing good about her was her stockings. Sexy. I wonder where she got 'em.
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I´m back!!! what´s new over here??
anyone from the past?
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:46 PM   #80
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Wow. Actually a new Damien song that's on constant repeat here. I guess the melody will be clearer in the studio version, but the way he sings it is just brilliant. It touches me.
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Does anyone know when the studio version is supposed to be released?
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:59 PM   #82
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From the When the Dragon Swallowed the Sun Facebook page (on the release of a studio version of "what if i'm wrong"...

"When The Dragon Swallowed The Sun We are currently considering our options. There will definitely be a release of some sort. Please stay tuned as we will announce any news as fast as possible. Thank you."
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:40 AM   #83
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I love how incessant it is. That's probably my favorite part, he just pounds and pounds and pounds right before the chorus.
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:25 AM   #84
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the girl's name is Julia Dubsky...
these are the full credits for the studio version of the song:

damien rice - vocals, guitars, bass, drums, percussion, wurlitzer
luke slott - piano
vyvienne long - cello, backing vocals
janet clarke - backing vocals
julia dubsky - backing vocals
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Uauuu!! I didn't know Damien plays drums that well to record it!!!

I want to hear the studio version!!

And yes, I miss Lisa's voice even in her own cd. It doesn't sound the same.
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actually this Julia Dubsky doesn't sound bad on record, check her youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_tJwpawxCI
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Oh dear... Yeah... I'm not trying to be argumentative or pick a fight (at all) so, white flag and social disclaimer laid...

I actually think she sounds worse on that YouTube recording. That was hideous, to my ears. Terrible tone. It's almost like a little sister (who can't really sing, but everyone has always told her she can) stepping up to perform after Sunday dinner. Augh.

So, for me... Please, please, please don't let her be part of the studio version of this song. K, thanks.

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the girl's name is Julia Dubsky...
these are the full credits for the studio version of the song:

damien rice - vocals, guitars, bass, drums, percussion, wurlitzer
WOW! and

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vyvienne long - cello, backing vocals
yaaaaayy

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Old 02-13-2010, 06:51 PM   #89
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Since Damo took some extra time off since the 9 tour, it makes total sense for him to learn the drums in the mean time.

Damn, that is one talented man! Could you imagine how amazing it would sound if he knew the violin?!


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Since Damo took some extra time off since the 9 tour, it makes total sense for him to learn the drums in the mean time.
For the amount of time it's been, I'm surprised he hasn't cured Cancer. I mean, really.
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