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Old 01-31-2008, 04:35 PM   #1
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Hey everybody. I have a question for the Damien / Juniper experts.......

Bell X1 has a great song called "Eve, the apple of my eye." I believe that this was actually a Juniper song first called "Never" and that Damien either wrote or co-wrote the song. Does this sound right?

Also, do any recordings exist of Damien singing this song? I suppose its possible that they recorded it as Juniper, but I also think that Damien was including this song in his live sets around 2004.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:08 PM   #2
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Yep, I have a recording of it from somewhere. Don't know too much about it, 'cept that it's definitely Damien singing it... It fades into another song at the end but I forget which...
I probably downloaded it from someone from here's sharing folder so they probably know more about it. If not I'll upload it for ya later.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:43 PM   #3
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yea i have it kicking around somewhere too, and the song he goes into is willie nelson- you were always on my mind.
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This is one song I definitely like ebtter in Juniper's version than in Bell X1's. When Damien sings it it's much rawer and not so radiofriendly.. Me likes
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Hey everybody. I have a question for the Damien / Juniper experts.......

Bell X1 has a great song called "Eve, the apple of my eye." I believe that this was actually a Juniper song first called "Never" and that Damien either wrote or co-wrote the song. Does this sound right?

Also, do any recordings exist of Damien singing this song? I suppose its possible that they recorded it as Juniper, but I also think that Damien was including this song in his live sets around 2004.
There's actually two separate Juniper versions of it where Damo is singing it. One of them features Gemma Hayes.
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:43 PM   #6
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Thanks! If any of you wouldn't mind sending either or both versions, I'd love to hear it.

Was I right in saying that it was written or co-written by Damien?
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There's actually two separate Juniper versions of it where Damo is singing it. One of them features Gemma Hayes.
What? I didn't know that.

Here's a semi-acoustic version of Eve, the apple... by Bell X1

http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/m...s?action=watch

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I am pretty sure I first heard Eve synched from Cold Water-very similar chords too. I heard him sing it at Vicar St 2nd Feb 2004 (intially the best concert I had attended but then realised EVERY Damo gig is similarly breathtaking!) I hadnt realised it was a Bellies song until later and then became a huge Bell X-1 fan too which is nice. Yes heard the Gemma Hayes version too which is ace but sadly not an immaculate recording. Also heard the Juniper songs and must admit I quite liked the Never version! Dilemmas. I dont have my Vicar St copy to hand but am pretty sure it was played on the first night where it was all standing (3 Feb was all seated and a better behaved crowd) Am I talking bollocks and simply imagined this??.........
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^I could kill for the Gemma version...

I also have a Never sung by Damien but I don't know from where I got it (it might have been from here: http://bellx1.davejeffery.com/Upload/ but the site seems to be down). Its without any add-on songs and not the most passionate performance. I preffer the Bellies version, the bitter self-ironic lyrics fit Paul much more.
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Was I right in saying that it was written or co-written by Damien?
No. It was written by Damien's then band mate Paul Noonan.

As far as I know, there are at least 3 Juniper versions in circulation. "Never, Live at Home", "Never, Live at the Olympia" and the 2fm version. He played it live towards the start of 2004 as an intro to Cold Water, which he said at one of the shows was inspired by the song (it is the same chords after all!).
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^I could kill for the Gemma version...
kind of the same by me...

can we get from anywhere?
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Yeah come on guys, we need it!
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:56 PM   #13
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can we get from anywhere?
http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/3...a/sharing.html
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The file is suspected of illegal or copyrighted content. Please contact link publisher or
use our search engine to find a file or folder:
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:28 PM   #15
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The file is suspected of illegal or copyrighted content. Please contact link publisher or
use our search engine to find a file or folder:
I'm the publisher, but I don't know how to solve this problem...

try this
http://www.zshare.net/download/71014423f18c89/

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^You could try to change the name of the file. That usually solves this issue. Try only "Never" first and if that fails, be creative and use something like, dunno, "wombat".

Edit: The Zshare is working fine. Muchas gracias
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I think it works now, thank you!
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yea i have it kicking around somewhere too, and the song he goes into is willie nelson- you were always on my mind.
i know, i was surprised damien went into a willie tune the first time i heard it, but it fits perfectly. willie's an amazing songwriter, no doubt about it.

it always sounded like damien and paul were showing off with their singing and competing for gemma's attention to me
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it always sounded like damien and paul were showing off with their singing and competing for gemma's attention to me

are they still in good terms? i mean paul and damien.
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^I don't know. But its curious that despite all the co-operation and interaction that goes on inside this music scene, they did not really work together since Damien bailed out.

This Gemma-version is soooo great. I just love her voice, its hard to explain, but they way she "jumps" notes is just like an uilleann pipe...
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^I read in an interview with Paul Noonan that they are indeed "still close"... but if Paul was hesitant to ever work with Damien again, I'd understand that sentiment.

The ft. Gemma version is lovely, thank you
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That Gemma version is great. Thanks glo!

It really seems like a completely different song than the Bell X1 version.
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:57 AM   #23
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Thanks for this
I really prefer Paul's voice on this one. I'm really digging the bellies...

Lovely stuff though...
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glo... thank you very, very much...
really awsome and beatiful version...
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^I don't know. But its curious that despite all the co-operation and interaction that goes on inside this music scene, they did not really work together since Damien bailed out.
the bellies just opened for damien on the scandinavian leg of the 9 tour.. also think they supported him on the US leg of the 2004 O tour at some point. there's no animosity between them, if that's what people are driving at, they've been friends since they were kids. a quote from paul from the irish times:

"Damien was the driving force behind Juniper, he's that kind of person, he cuts huge swathes through people's lives. I will always look for Damien's approval about things because he was so instrumental in all of us finding a voice in the first place.

"Of course, part of me is fiercely jealous of his success and his lack of appreciation for that. But I've known him since we were 13 so what we have is beyond the music lark, I feel. I'm not in touch with him that often nowadays, but there's still an indelible mark there."
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i forgto ask for the lyric...
i found eve, apple of my eye lyric, but juniper´s version seems different at some point... specially at the end... does anyone know what they say?

bell xi lyric:
You left it, I sent it
I want it back
You left it, I sent it
I want it back

If I had you here, I'd clip your wings
Snap you up and leave you sprawling on my pin
This plan of mine is oh so very lame
Can't you see the grass is greener where it rains

You left, I died,
I went and you cried
You came, I think
But I never really know
I've served my time
I've watched you climb
The wrong incline
But what do I know (but you never really know: juniper´s version)

Accept it, Don't let it
Turn the screw (**** you up: juniper)
Accept it, And let it
Scream back at you (**** you up)

Now this applies both equally to you and I
The only thing we share
Is the same sky
These empty metaphors
They're all in vain
Like can't you see the grass is greener where it rains

[In the garden Snake was a charmin'
And Eve said let's give it a try
Now lead us not into temptation
But no matter how hard I try
When in the garden and
Snake is a charmin'
And Eve says let's give it a try
Eve is the apple of my eye

And I lie behind you
And a cradle you in the palm of me
And I pat your hair down
I think will we sink or swim?
'Cause we could do either on a whim] ===> bell x1´s version
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Hey everybody. I have a question for the Damien / Juniper experts.......

Bell X1 has a great song called "Eve, the apple of my eye." I believe that this was actually a Juniper song first called "Never" and that Damien either wrote or co-wrote the song. Does this sound right?

Also, do any recordings exist of Damien singing this song? I suppose its possible that they recorded it as Juniper, but I also think that Damien was including this song in his live sets around 2004.

I may be off topic, but I came across this site that likely has been viewed my most, but was quite surprising to me- this list of Damien Cover's, some I am well aware of, but other's I am shocked. Anybody aware of some of these or surprised? and the cover of Eve?? Not sure that would constitute a cover, if he ever actually performed eve and not 'never'

Damien Rice - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (Led Zeppelin)
Damien Rice - Babylon (David Gray)
Damien Rice - Be My Husband (Nina Simone)
Damien Rice - Billie Jean (Michael Jackson)
Damien Rice - Black Is The Colour (Christy Moore)
Damien Rice - Blue Moon (Bob Dylan)
Damien Rice - Can't Get You Out Of My Head (Kylie Minogue)
Damien Rice - Couldn't Love You More (John Martyn)
Damien Rice - Creep (Radiohead)
Damien Rice - Desafinado (Antonio Carlos Jobim)
Damien Rice - Eve, The Apple Of My Eye (Bell X1)
Damien Rice - Everybody Wants (Paddy Casey)
Damien Rice - Faith (George Michael)
Damien Rice - Famous Blue Raincoat (Leonard Cohen)
Damien Rice - Get The Party Started (Pink)
Damien Rice - Glory Box (Portishead)
Damien Rice - Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
Damien Rice - Happy Birthday (Traditional)
Damien Rice - Heaven Belongs To You (Nina Simone)
Damien Rice - Hey Jude (The Beatles)
Damien Rice - I Need Love (LL Cool J)
Damien Rice - I Still Haven?t Found What I?m Looking For (U2)
Damien Rice - I'll Be Somewhere Listening (Traditional)
Damien Rice - In the Highways (Peasall Sisters)
Damien Rice - Johnny B. Goode (Chuck Berry)
Damien Rice - July (Mundy)
Damien Rice - Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (Bob Dylan)
Damien Rice - Karma Camelian (Boy George)
Damien Rice - Kid's Song (Mic Christopher)
Damien Rice - Kiss (Prince)
Damien Rice - Last Goodbye (Jeff Buckley)
Damien Rice - Lay Me Down (The Frames)
Damien Rice - Linger (The Cranberries)
Damien Rice - Lisdoonvarna (Christy Moore)
Damien Rice - No Woman No Cry (Bob Marley)
Damien Rice - Oh Carol (Smokie)
Damien Rice - Once I Loved (Antonio Carlos Jobim)
Damien Rice - Play Dead (Bjork)
Damien Rice - Raglan Road (Traditional Song)
Damien Rice - Ramble On (Led Zeppelin)
Damien Rice - Red Chord (The Frames)
Damien Rice - Santa Maria
Damien Rice - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pink Floyd)
Damien Rice - So Lonely (The Police)
Damien Rice - Stand By Me (Ben.E. King)
Damien Rice - Star Star** (The Frames)
Damien Rice - Suspicious Minds (Elvis Presley)
Damien Rice - Talking About A Revolution (Tracy Chapman)
Damien Rice - That's What Good Friends Do (Mic Christopher)
Damien Rice - The Ketchup Song (Las Ketchup)
Damien Rice - The Wind Cries Mary (Jimi Hendrix)
Damien Rice - Unchained Melody (Righteous Brothers)
Damien Rice - Under The Bridge (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
Damien Rice - Waiting In Vain (Bob Marley)
Damien Rice - Walking On The Moon (The Police)
Damien Rice - War Is Over (John Lennon)
Damien Rice - Waters of March (Antonio Carlos Jobim)
Damien Rice - When a Man Loves a Woman (Percy Sledge)
Damien Rice - When Doves Cry (Prince)

here is the link if interested

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^Damien sang Raglan Road??? Whowhenwhatwhere???? I have to hear it!

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the bellies just opened for damien on the scandinavian leg of the 9 tour.. also think they supported him on the US leg of the 2004 O tour at some point. there's no animosity between them, if that's what people are driving at, they've been friends since they were kids. a quote from paul from the irish times:

"Damien was the driving force behind Juniper, he's that kind of person, he cuts huge swathes through people's lives. I will always look for Damien's approval about things because he was so instrumental in all of us finding a voice in the first place.

"Of course, part of me is fiercely jealous of his success and his lack of appreciation for that. But I've known him since we were 13 so what we have is beyond the music lark, I feel. I'm not in touch with him that often nowadays, but there's still an indelible mark there."
I stand corrected.
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^Damien sang Raglan Road??? Whowhenwhatwhere???? I have to hear it!.
me too!! somebody somwere please say u hav this.!!!
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I'm actually more interested in hearing Damien doing Jeff Buckley's "The Last Goodbye." That's an amazing song, but Buckley's voice was one of a kind. I'm thinking that the arrangement would have to be different to suit Damien. Has anybody heard this?
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