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Old 09-21-2006, 04:26 PM   #1
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Default Just e-mailed Zane Lowe...

... to 1) thank him for playing 9 Crimes... but also 2) to tell him that Damien is not from UK but IRELAND!!!!!
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:48 PM   #2
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It makes my blood boil when the English lump us Irish into being "from the U.K." when it meets their purpose.

We, like some many other people around the world, payed a price for our independence.
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:50 PM   #3
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.... go on home british soldiers go on home .... cos you've got no ......... homes of your own..

nah im not that nationalist i just hate the prejudice after-effects it brings
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:11 PM   #4
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hmmm, is ireland part of the british isles

surely it can't be denyed that there is geographical closeness of ireland to yoookay(uk)? i'd like to think that i have brotherhood withem atleast on that level.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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Maybe in the same way that England is a small town in South Dakota, Europe is annexed
from the USSR, and the Gaza Strip is a chocolate bar that they sell in Lebanon. As Brenda
Fricker said (from her own personal experience) "You're English when you win an Oscar
and you're Irish when you're drunk in an airport".
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:40 PM   #6
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NEWS:

Tuesday 8.44pm: A DJ simply gets an accent mixed up without showing any prejudice, nationalism or ignorance towards the Irish nation.
Tuesday 8.45pm: World ends.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:51 PM   #7
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Tuesday 8.46pm: DJ survives because he eats his spinach.

No-one really cares about what other people think of Ireland and England, but
there is an awful lot of Irish artists, actors and musicians who are assumed to be
English by the general press. It does become a bit annoying to have to hear it
constantly. It's a pretty basic bit of information to have to learn.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:56 PM   #8
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kate thornton interviews samuel l jackson

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/20...

Thornton: "What was it like working with Colin? 'Cos he is just so hot in the UK right now..."

Jackson: "He's pretty hot in the US, too!"

Thornton: "Yeah, but he is one of our own."

Jackson: "Isn't he from Ireland?"

Thornton: "Yeah, but we can claim him, 'cos Ireland is beside us."

Jackson: "You see, that's your problem right there. You British keep claiming people that don't belong to you. We had that problem here in America too. It was called slavery."

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Old 09-21-2006, 09:57 PM   #9
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Ahh I remember that Good ole Sam
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Old 09-21-2006, 10:01 PM   #10
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agh..thats deadly....lol good old sam!!

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i ****ing love samuel l jackson he is fab
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Old 09-21-2006, 10:09 PM   #12
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That's the problem with arguments, they never get sorted out because one of the people in the arguments is inevitabely not Samuel L. Jackson.
If half the people in the world were Samuel L. Jackson there wouldn't be any war, just a nice combination of wit and fear.
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Old 09-22-2006, 01:42 AM   #13
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That's the problem with arguments, they never get sorted out because one of the people in the arguments is inevitabely not Samuel L. Jackson.
If half the people in the world were Samuel L. Jackson there wouldn't be any war, just a nice combination of wit and fear.
And safe air travel...
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:12 AM   #14
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If you had the luck of the Irish
You'd be sorry and wish you were dead
You should have the luck of the Irish
And you'd wish you was English instead

A thousand years of torture and hunger
Drove the people away from their land
A land full of beauty and wonder
Was raped by the British brigands - goddam, goddam

If you could keep voices like flowers, there'd be shamrock all over the world
If you could drink dreams like Irish streams
Then the world would be high as the mountain of morn

In the 'Pool they told us the story
How the English divided the land
Of the pain, the death and the glory
And the poets of auld Eireland

If we could make chains with the morning dew, the world would be like Galway Bay
Let's walk over rainbows like leprechauns, the world would be one big Blarney stone

Why the hell are the English there anyway?
As they kill with God on their side
Blame it all on the kids and the IRA
As the bastards commit genocide - aye, aye, genocide

If you had the luck of the Irish
You'd be sorry and wish you were dead
You should have the luck of the Irish
And you'd wish you was English instead
Yes, you'd wish you was English instead
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:18 AM   #15
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Really though, why do we align oursevles to countries, religons, race, and sex and then preach about equality. Well, we can't have equality if we are all saying I am this and you are that. To me, I am as Irish as they are, and they are as american as I am. They are in a different country on a different continent, but that doesn't change them in my eyes. Like John said, you used to be able to just go around, and it wasn't there is england, and over there is germany and over there is america, it was really just One World, One People
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:13 AM   #16
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It makes my blood boil when the English lump us Irish into being "from the U.K." when it meets their purpose.

We, like some many other people around the world, payed a price for our independence.
It makes my blood boil too, the anti english feel from so many people... The quote above shows how simple and easy Zane's mistake is to make... Zane isn't English, yet the english are quickly blamed...

Many people paid a price for independence (indirectly mostly nowadays!).... years ago.... It wasn't my fault, my fathers fault, my grandfathers fault, etc. Move one... bitterness has no place here....

ps. I love Ireland, and the Irish people when I visit, they don't exhibit this bitterness in the flesh!

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Old 09-22-2006, 05:14 PM   #17
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I blame flags. And loneliness.

The romans and the greeks and that were just as cuntish in their day, but we just big up the classics in heinsight.

People like to be PART of something, like "eskimos", and then they depend on it, and then they get crazy. like gender and stuff, people protect their gender roles completely, to the death. and then others try to re-instate equality, and call themselves feminists. and get just as obsessed about that.

Someone said to me the other day, "why do they call it femminism. why not just call it equalism?", that's more fitting is it not?

It's harder than it sounds to be without prejudice. When ur whole life u've seen those who stunted the growth of ur own country, wallowing in wealth, and heared the rants of ur ancestors and bitterness growing with no redemption. Even if u eliminate the discriminations u can't change what people feel; that's EVEN MORE difficult.

My gut gives me bitterness when i look at certain people, just cos of where they come from and who they are. Conciously i know what's right. but deep down i get led astray by the words and writings that have penetrated my mind over my whole life.

I got to accept that it's wrong. No matter who did what to my ancestors. if i trace any other ancestors i can probably find as much evil there as anywhere else. Further, If i look inside myself, i would probably find that I am more capable than i'm likely to admit of commiting attrocities that have driven my deep mind into irrational opinions and emotions. I'm no worse than ANYone else, and they are no worse than I.

If there is such thing as freedom, then it must include knowing that ^.
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:37 PM   #18
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I don't know if you can be divorced from geographic region so Ireland is part of the British Isles, but Ireland is not part of Great Britain. Being Irish I'd definitely be offended if I was labelled a Brit, but this is coming from a political and historical context. I love the British like i love everyone in the world but being Irish is a major part of my identity and lumping us into the U.K./Britain robs us of our i.d. Ireland is definitely not a part of th U.K. we're a republic, we don't belong to anyones Kingdom, we have no monarch.

EDIT:Ireland is so much cooler than the U.K.
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:14 PM   #19
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Someone said to me the other day, "why do they call it femminism. why not just call it equalism?", that's more fitting is it not?
very off-topic, but it's not the same. i know a lot of angry women that are femminists and they think all men are crap and all women are perfect
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:19 PM   #20
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i know a lot of angry women that are femminists and they think all men are crap and all women are perfect

dont we all..... i mean my sisters call men all sorts of names after a relationship whether it broke up peacefully or not

then next week they meet another boy they like and eventually the cycle repeats itself.

good old animal magnetism
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Just because you're born in Ireland doesn't make you or your country any better than Simbabwe or Bangladesh, the subtle romanticizing in this "oh, Ireland is so cool" crap is a bit of a pain in the arse, always has been. Any person born in Ireland with a brain wouldn't say those things, cos it's downright stupid and ridiculous. As stupid as "Germany rocks".

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To me this is just one of a few messages board that I like to visit cos it's got lovely, inspiring people on here. I don't get an erection, I don't get a lump in my throat, just because I have the option to label myself "Eskimo friend member" and I don't think most of us on here do, too.
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As stupid as "Germany rocks".
yes quite stupid indeed
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:15 PM   #23
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Is Zane Lowe not australian. It does annoy me when people get nationalities mixed up but it's really not something specific to Irish people. The Scots get called english but i don't take it too personally.

It works the other way aswell. I've read loads of reviews for bands where english bands have been called irish or scottish or whatever else. I just think it's a bit snobish to go "Hey he's irish not one of those damn english" because in the end it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that he can write awe-inspiring songs, play delicate guitar and sing beautifully (admitedly helped by his irish accent.)
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Just because you're born in Ireland doesn't make you or your country any better than Simbabwe or Bangladesh, the subtle romanticizing in this "oh, Ireland is so cool" crap is a bit of a pain in the arse, always has been. Any person born in Ireland with a brain wouldn't say those things, cos it's downright stupid and ridiculous. As stupid as "Germany rocks".



To me this is just one of a few messages board that I like to visit cos it's got lovely, inspiring people on here. I don't get an erection, I don't get a lump in my throat, just because I have the option to label myself "Eskimo friend member" and I don't think most of us on here do, too.
LOL! nah i was just saying it's evident in even innoscent daily activities, like frequenting a musical informed forum.

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very off-topic, but it's not the same. i know a lot of angry women that are femminists and they think all men are crap and all women are perfect
Very off topic :S I think i was just grasped into thought in response to earlier posts.
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Is Zane Lowe not australian
HAHAHAHAH what's funny is that zane lowe is a kiwi.
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HAHAHAHAH what's funny is that zane lowe is a kiwi.
Same thing, no? ;-)
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It works the other way aswell. I've read loads of reviews for bands where english bands have been called irish or scottish or whatever else. I just think it's a bit snobish to go "Hey he's irish not one of those damn english" because in the end it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that he can write awe-inspiring songs, play delicate guitar and sing beautifully (admitedly helped by his irish accent.)
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talkin about.
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Calm the f*ck down guys. It's a common and simple mistake
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lol, just nit-picking.
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Like John said, you used to be able to just go around, and it wasn't there is england, and over there is germany and over there is america, it was really just One World, One People
Um no, it was a case of this tribe inhabits this territory and if you encroach on it we're gonna f*cking kill you. It's not like we used dance around hand in hand with rabbits and lions singing Imagine


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Unfortunately it is a common "mistake". I don't lose sleep over it but it's annoying to see.
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