Regarding Lisa

erik mabry · 12-31-2006, 12:24 AM

Does she have any part in the writing of the songs? Is it strictly Damien?

LaurenM · 12-31-2006, 01:07 AM

I don't think anyone really knows the details of how the album is made. I bet she gives some input here and there, but as far as I know it is pretty much Damo all the way.

Spamlet · 12-31-2006, 01:18 AM

The only Damien song she's been actually credited for that I know of is co-writing "Unplayed Piano".

Wheels · 12-31-2006, 01:23 AM

She certainly appears to be actively involved in the songwritting during the promo video they released with the new album...

LaurenM · 12-31-2006, 01:38 AM

what video is that? if you could give me the link id be really appreciative

Spamlet · 12-31-2006, 01:43 AM

Yeah, I was gonna mention that whole "righteous little witch" episode too. Still it's hard to say if she does that for all of them or if that was another one like "UP" that she and he wrote together. Also since we don't have the audio of that convo. we don't know if maybe he's just said something aloud that she's just writing down for him.

Also I'm never sure how credit for singer/songwriters who have backing bands works. If the main dude writes the lyrics and general music (what one would play if performing it solo) do the others ever really get credited for their imput: the bass, drum, cello, harmony etc. lines which are added later for fleshing it out? Good question for a member of a songwriters' union to answer for us I s'pose...

Lauren: It's the "9" EPK (Electronic Press Kit) video which can be found on Damo's official site, the warner bros. 9 site and on YouTube.

Tommy · 12-31-2006, 02:08 AM

Im pretty sure you get credited for writing the melody and the lyrics only, so therefore Damien would have full ownership of the music. Its an example of why drums are sampled so regulary because they arent copyrighted.

robmcgrail · 01-01-2007, 06:49 PM

Im pretty sure lisa wrote the new silent night lyrics on "O", but that and unplayed piano are the only ones ive seen her credited to. I'm sure she reads over damos stuff and has an input, whether he listens maybe another thing.

Bumpman · 01-01-2007, 07:12 PM

We had a conversation with Tomo at the Picnic about the band's input into the songwriting... it was informative to say the least.

LaurenM · 01-01-2007, 09:27 PM

What did he say?!

#Ian# · 01-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurenBledsoe

What did he say?!

"Just play the ****ing note!"

"The first one?"

"No not the ****ing first one! The ****ing first one's already ****ing down! Just play the ****ing note you were ****ing playing earlier! I've been playing the ****ing first one! We have the ****ing first one! "

Closing_Doors · 01-01-2007, 10:25 PM

Again, we want to stay out of the whole area of actually being in love with the horse!

Bumpman · 01-02-2007, 12:23 AM

My lovely horse
I want to hold you so tight
I want to rub my fingers through your hair
And love you all night

LaurenM · 01-02-2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Ian#

"Just play the ****ing note!"

"The first one?"

"No not the ****ing first one! The ****ing first one's already ****ing down! Just play the ****ing note you were ****ing playing earlier! I've been playing the ****ing first one! We have the ****ing first one! "

hahaha so I'm guessing that means Damien doesn't take input well? hmmm thats interesting... i wonder if hes an ***hole a lot of the time.

from that description, his general demeanor must be pretty high strung but who really knows ya know? i wish i did

Bumpman · 01-02-2007, 02:43 AM

He's not an assh*le, but the band is called 'Damien Rice' for a reason. I'm sure he's open to input, but he does have creative control.

LaurenM · 01-02-2007, 02:47 AM

I actually like him more for it. I'm glad he takes his music so seriously. Being a little bit of an As*hole some of the time isn't always a bad thing if your defending your art.

Spamlet · 01-02-2007, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmcgrail

Im pretty sure lisa wrote the new silent night lyrics on "O", but that and unplayed piano are the only ones ive seen her credited to. I'm sure she reads over damos stuff and has an input, whether he listens maybe another thing.

I thought she may've wrote those too but couldn't find it credited to her anwhere.

Lauren,
I'm guessing Ian, Closing and Bump were in the midst of some Irish Tv show injoke or something judging by the specificity of the quotes and the pic...

Bumpman · 01-02-2007, 04:07 AM

They're credited to her on the inside of O, it says all songs written by Damien Rice except Silent Night - lyrics by Lisa Hannigan melody traditional. And there's never been an Irish television show about priests. I bet we'll win by a million points and you'll lose by minus one thousand.

Spamlet · 01-02-2007, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpman

They're credited to her on the inside of O, it says all songs written by Damien Rice except Silent Night - lyrics by Lisa Hannigan melody traditional. And there's never been an Irish television show about priests. I bet we'll win by a million points and you'll lose by minus one thousand.

OK yeah, thought so: but I couldn't find my "O" cause I'm at home for the holidays so I went online and didn't find it anywhere. Sean, that 'points' thing sounds suspiciously like a further injoke (was it that 'Father Ted' BBC show then?) but if it isn't then I'm still quite lost...

SisterMidnight · 01-02-2007, 04:33 AM

yes, please let us in on the injoke because this..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpman

My lovely horse
I want to hold you so tight
I want to rub my fingers through your hair
And love you all night

deserves an explanation

what did tomo say again?

Closing_Doors · 01-02-2007, 11:12 AM

Take this lump of sugar baby, you know you want it!

Sister maybe this sound clip will explain it somewhat!

Wheels · 01-02-2007, 12:31 PM

I think we'll be needing a Fr Ted thread... or forum even!!

cille · 01-02-2007, 12:51 PM

I don't BELIEVE it!

LaurenM · 01-02-2007, 02:33 PM

I'm so confused...

Bumpman · 01-02-2007, 02:53 PM

They have no morals, and no respect for human life. But one thing I will say, and no-one can deny this; They have the finest boilers in the world, and I include Canada in that.

#Ian# · 01-02-2007, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurenBledsoe

hahaha so I'm guessing that means Damien doesn't take input well? hmmm thats interesting... i wonder if hes an ***hole a lot of the time.

from that description, his general demeanor must be pretty high strung but who really knows ya know? i wish i did

Spamlet has it right.

I've no idea what Tomo said. I just like Father Ted. However my suggestion to a different member of the band suggesting that Damien seemed moody at times was met by a response that I was putting it rather mildly.

Tommy · 01-02-2007, 06:59 PM

We have to lose that sax solo

Calum · 01-02-2007, 09:04 PM

Let's get back to the point here: what did Tomo say?

LaurenM · 01-02-2007, 10:31 PM

thank you! yes, what did he say?

SisterMidnight · 01-03-2007, 04:47 AM

i don't think tomo's talking

ian - really?! damien = moody?? i'm shocked

ah the creative genius types always are, aren't they?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Closing_Doors

Take this lump of sugar baby, you know you want it!

Sister maybe this sound clip will explain it somewhat!

nope, still confused

regarding lisa though.. i think damien is obviously the main creative force, but i've noticed the band has more input these days, i think you can hear it on 9 that the band was more involved (in the arrangements, if not necessarily the songwriting) and in the video where damien passes the journal to lisa, i read that as him bouncing ideas off her and probably telling her what to write rather than her editing or writing herself.. i agree with the notion of lisa being somewhat of a muse to damien and that scene really illustrated that for me..

though she's proven recently that she has some songwriting skills in her own right too

12-31-2006, 12:24 AM	#1
erik mabry Eskimo Baby Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Santa Fe, Texas USA Posts: 9	Regarding Lisa Does she have any part in the writing of the songs? Is it strictly Damien?

12-31-2006, 01:18 AM	#3
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	The only Damien song she's been actually credited for that I know of is co-writing "Unplayed Piano". __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs

12-31-2006, 01:23 AM	#4
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	She certainly appears to be actively involved in the songwritting during the promo video they released with the new album... __________________

12-31-2006, 01:38 AM	#5
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	what video is that? if you could give me the link id be really appreciative __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/

12-31-2006, 01:43 AM	#6
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	Yeah, I was gonna mention that whole "righteous little witch" episode too. Still it's hard to say if she does that for all of them or if that was another one like "UP" that she and he wrote together. Also since we don't have the audio of that convo. we don't know if maybe he's just said something aloud that she's just writing down for him. Also I'm never sure how credit for singer/songwriters who have backing bands works. If the main dude writes the lyrics and general music (what one would play if performing it solo) do the others ever really get credited for their imput: the bass, drum, cello, harmony etc. lines which are added later for fleshing it out? Good question for a member of a songwriters' union to answer for us I s'pose... Lauren: It's the "9" EPK (Electronic Press Kit) video which can be found on Damo's official site, the warner bros. 9 site and on YouTube. __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs Last edited by Spamlet; 12-31-2006 at 01:48 AM.

12-31-2006, 01:07 AM	#2
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	I don't think anyone really knows the details of how the album is made. I bet she gives some input here and there, but as far as I know it is pretty much Damo all the way.

12-31-2006, 02:08 AM	#7
Tommy Chilly Eskimo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 622	Im pretty sure you get credited for writing the melody and the lyrics only, so therefore Damien would have full ownership of the music. Its an example of why drums are sampled so regulary because they arent copyrighted. __________________ www.lyinghippyfiend.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/thombartleymusic

01-01-2007, 06:49 PM	#8
robmcgrail Lord of Lovely Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 198	Im pretty sure lisa wrote the new silent night lyrics on "O", but that and unplayed piano are the only ones ive seen her credited to. I'm sure she reads over damos stuff and has an input, whether he listens maybe another thing.

01-01-2007, 07:12 PM	#9
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	We had a conversation with Tomo at the Picnic about the band's input into the songwriting... it was informative to say the least. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-01-2007, 09:27 PM	#10
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	What did he say?! __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/

01-01-2007, 10:25 PM	#12
Closing_Doors Hysterical & Useless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,329	Again, we want to stay out of the whole area of actually being in love with the horse! __________________ Come clean, come good, repeat with me the punch line 'Just like blood' when those at the back rush forward to say how a little love goes a long long long way. -- Simon Armitage

01-02-2007, 12:23 AM	#13
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	My lovely horse I want to hold you so tight I want to rub my fingers through your hair And love you all night __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-02-2007, 02:43 AM	#15
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	He's not an assh*le, but the band is called 'Damien Rice' for a reason. I'm sure he's open to input, but he does have creative control. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-02-2007, 02:47 AM	#16
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	I actually like him more for it. I'm glad he takes his music so seriously. Being a little bit of an As*hole some of the time isn't always a bad thing if your defending your art. __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/

01-02-2007, 04:07 AM	#18
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	They're credited to her on the inside of O, it says all songs written by Damien Rice except Silent Night - lyrics by Lisa Hannigan melody traditional. And there's never been an Irish television show about priests. I bet we'll win by a million points and you'll lose by minus one thousand. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-02-2007, 11:12 AM	#21
Closing_Doors Hysterical & Useless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,329	Take this lump of sugar baby, you know you want it! Sister maybe this sound clip will explain it somewhat! __________________ Come clean, come good, repeat with me the punch line 'Just like blood' when those at the back rush forward to say how a little love goes a long long long way. -- Simon Armitage

01-02-2007, 12:31 PM	#22
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	I think we'll be needing a Fr Ted thread... or forum even!! __________________

01-02-2007, 12:51 PM	#23
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	I don't BELIEVE it! __________________ Yeah

01-02-2007, 02:33 PM	#24
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	I'm so confused... __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/

01-02-2007, 02:53 PM	#25
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	They have no morals, and no respect for human life. But one thing I will say, and no-one can deny this; They have the finest boilers in the world, and I include Canada in that. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-02-2007, 06:59 PM	#27
Tommy Chilly Eskimo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 622	We have to lose that sax solo __________________ www.lyinghippyfiend.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/thombartleymusic

01-02-2007, 09:04 PM	#28
Calum Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West Sussex, England Posts: 442	Let's get back to the point here: what did Tomo say?

01-02-2007, 10:31 PM	#29
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	thank you! yes, what did he say? __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/