Story of O

inthehall9393 · 10-20-2003, 06:58 PM

Does anyone else belive that "the story of O" is a refernce to Othello?

I think it makes sense because both are about love scorned.

cartman · 10-20-2003, 07:00 PM

well its not...

Damien rice said it himself, he was cycling his bike one day when O popped into his head outta nowhere,

then he talks bout crap like relationsships n sh*t always going round and stuff like that.

inthehall9393 · 10-20-2003, 07:05 PM

Well then..

Thank you for clearing that up

even though he said so can't that be thought of as an interesting parallel

tis_me_Tania · 10-20-2003, 07:23 PM

oh. fora sec there i thought you were were reffering to the actual Story of O, as in the novel. hasanyone read it? i heard it was good.. very 'sexually exotic'. i was thinking about buying it just to see if i can compareit with Damiens music, although ithink theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book. i woulddefinitely stillbuy it if someone gave it a thumbs up.

Pete · 10-20-2003, 07:27 PM

yeah but you would get a cheep thrill out of the book...i may buy it..[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

inthehall9393 · 10-20-2003, 07:31 PM

Who wrote story of O? the novel?

sounds interesting

Krystian · 10-20-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

oh. fora sec there i thought you were were reffering to the actual Story of O, as in the novel. hasanyone read it? i heard it was good.. very 'sexually exotic'. i was thinking about buying it just to see if i can compareit with Damiens music, although ithink theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book. i woulddefinitely stillbuy it if someone gave it a thumbs up.

Ive read excerpts tania, and its not very good, very long and wordy.

you can check it our for yourself @

Part One of the Story of O

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four

Krystian · 10-20-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by inthehall9393

Who wrote story of O? the novel?

sounds interesting

Pauline Reague, a frenchwomen

dara · 10-20-2003, 10:52 PM

shes one dirty bitch[img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

Angela · 10-21-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

...although i*think theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book.

Didn't he say in some interview he never even read the book by the time he named the album? ([img]smileys/smiley24.gif[/img] Not that it prevented him from maybe having read it afterwards!]

nightingale333 · 10-21-2003, 03:20 AM

Hmm, maybe one could read the "Story of O" and listen to "O" at the same time, and achieve some sort of spiritual nirvana. [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

Wheels · 10-21-2003, 04:23 AM

As I remember it 'the story of O' refers to the book, although he hadn't read it (he claims)... the album title 'O' does not... it just jumped into his head... and the two are unconnected... why? who knows...

tis_me_Tania · 10-21-2003, 12:11 PM

ahh krystian.. i was just nowskimming through the links you gave and wow.. itseems to be the entire novel! now i wont hafta buy it >

thx thx! much appreciated

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Originally Posted by Wheels

As I remember it 'the story of O' refers to the book, although he hadn't read it (he claims)... the album title 'O' does not... it just jumped into his head... and the two are unconnected... why? who knows...

yeah.. thatstrue i do remember reading somewhere that he hadntreadthe book, but then in Amie, he says to read him the story ofo. i know the title of the album has nothing to do with the novel itself but that song (or that verse)makes me think otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Angela

Didn't he say in some interview he never even read the book by the time he named the album? (

Not that it prevented him from maybe having read it afterwards!]

i think youre prob right.. maybehehadnt read thenovel at first, but did later when Amie was written. it does kinda have a nice balance with having the album called O and havinga verse that compliments that title.

Krystian · 10-21-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

ahh krystian.. i was just nowskimming through the links you gave and wow.. itseems to be the entire novel! now i wont hafta buy it >

thx thx! much appreciated

.

No prob Tania [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

stargift · 10-21-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

ahh krystian.. i was just nowskimming through the links you gave and wow.. itseems to be the entire novel! now i wont hafta buy it >

thx thx! much appreciated

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheels

As I remember it 'the story of O' refers to the book, although he hadn't read it (he claims)... the album title 'O' does not... it just jumped into his head... and the two are unconnected... why? who knows...

yeah.. thatstrue i do remember reading somewhere that he hadntreadthe book, but then in Amie, he says to read him the story ofo. i know the title of the album has nothing to do with the novel itself but that song (or that verse)makes me think otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Angela

Didn't he say in some interview he never even read the book by the time he named the album? (

Not that it prevented him from maybe having read it afterwards!]

i think youre prob right.. maybehehadnt read thenovel at first, but did later when Amie was written. it does kinda have a nice balance with having the album called O and havinga verse that compliments that title.

The original line in Amie when the song was called "Spaceship" was --"read me a story of love" he recorded it that way with Juniper.

tis_me_Tania · 10-21-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stargift

The original line in Amie when the song was called "Spaceship" was --"read me a story of love" he recorded it that way with Juniper.

ahh.. nice to know! mhmm..

#Ian# · 10-22-2003, 03:05 PM

I've been listening to the Union Chapel CD and my suspicion that he's been singing "read me the story of old" the whole time seem to be confirmed, anyone else get think its that.

tis_me_Tania · 10-22-2003, 03:28 PM

funny you said that cus i heard the Union Chapel cdbefore O.. and i thought it said that same thing, but the lyrics said otherwise. plus.. read me the story of old doesnt make much sense?.. of course..unless theres another story of old somewhere.. :/but i think its just the way Damien stretches out "o" in that verse. on the album you can hear O perfectly fine.

gaelynn · 10-23-2003, 03:17 PM

Yeah, me too, I always thought it was 'read me a story of old' as well. I'm sure it is. How Damien's probably laughing to think we are all trying to discern some deep connection between his lyrics anda classic seventiesstory of female submission (also made into a very famous film)... he probablyvisits the boards from time to time.

tis_me_Tania · 10-23-2003, 06:56 PM

ahh he wouldnt laught at us. we're his dear and faithfull followers! lol..plus one cant help but think it does since he names the album O and then makes a reference to it in Amie. and hmm.. i wonder if he does check the boards. i heard a while ago that Lisa was a member. of course, one cant be really sure.

mhmm.. [love ya Damien!!![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] come to south florida dammit!!(just in case if he's peeking in =/ )]

gaelynn · 10-27-2003, 10:46 AM

I'm sure it's fair to say that the main lyrical controversy about Amie is that it's nigh-on impossible to sing along to it without wanting to sing 'Amie, come sit on my... face'.

Sorry, but it's true. We were all thinking it, I just happened to say it.

Aisling · 10-27-2003, 03:28 PM

can i ask a question?

why does everyone get so wrapped up in the story of o and interpretations of everything?

i just enjoy the music.

tis_me_Tania · 10-27-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aisling

can i ask a question?

why does everyone get so wrapped up in the story of o and interpretations of everything?

i just enjoy the music.

ah..i can only speak for myself, but im very much into thedepth and the "meaning behind the meanings" of lyrics.i like to know exactly what the artist or poet or writer (or whoever)is thinking about whenhe writes and if it correlates to anything else.it helps meunderstand better. i like to think of it as trying to walk intheir shoes. either that or.. im just too damn curious. :/

Krystian · 10-27-2003, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

ah..i can only speak for myself, but im very much into thedepth and the "meaning behind the meanings" of lyrics.i like to know exactly what the artist or poet or writer (or whoever)is thinking about whenhe writes and if it correlates to anything else.it helps meunderstand better. i like to think of it as trying to walk intheir shoes. either that or.. im just too damn curious. :/

i totally agree w/ ya tania [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

VolcanoLola · 10-28-2003, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

oh. fora sec there i thought you were were reffering to the actual Story of O, as in the novel. hasanyone read it? i heard it was good.. very 'sexually exotic'. i was thinking about buying it just to see if i can compareit with Damiens music, although ithink theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book. i woulddefinitely stillbuy it if someone gave it a thumbs up.

I thought that maybe DRs album was in reference to this book as well at first Tania! I haven't read it, but have heard a lot about it. Although I think his album has nothing to do with the book, I do think that they share a common theme: the implicit pain in love; the sometimes delicate line between love and pain...I wonder if Damo has ever read it or heard of it?

tis_me_Tania · 10-28-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VolcanoLola

I do think that they share a common theme: the implicit pain in love; the sometimes delicate line between love and pain...I wonder if Damo has ever read it or heard of it?

yes! you hit it right on the nail :>! ive been reading from the links that krystian gave above, and that definitely seems to be true. but for the most part, i think that wasjust a coincidencesince Damien claims he's never read the book, likeAngela said. i guess the novel can be obscurely compared with O, if you really want it to, but its not meant to be since Damien hasnt really read it.

Aisling · 10-28-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tis_me_Tania

i like to know exactly what the artist or poet or writer (or whoever)is thinking about whenhe writes and if it correlates to anything else.it helps meunderstand better. i like to think of it as trying to walk intheir shoes. either that or.. im just too damn curious. :/

why? music is made to entertain i believe and unless you know the artist personally i feel its not your business to really have to understand. i know if i was successful i'd want people to enjoy my music but not to completely analyse every word of it. i do write music and only the people i wrote it for or about know what it's all about and most of the time that person's just me. so i guess i just dont understand. sorry

Edited by: Aisling

tis_me_Tania · 10-28-2003, 06:45 PM

i dont know about the meaning of a song not being our business. if we're the ones that buy aalbum based on the lyricalcontent and meaning..how can it not be our business? i know im naturallyvery curious, so maybe that has something to do with it.heh..ihonestly dont expect anyone to understand it either.

aww cute smiley

gaelynn · 10-29-2003, 05:30 AM

Music, like any art form, is about communication. If you write music with lyrics, then they're part of that communication. Sure, it's not your 'duty', as the writer, to ensure they're crystal clear, and they may mean something very personal to you, but they are still a form of communication, else why write 'em at all. So we have a right to our interest, though Damien equally would have a right not to explain further.

Anyway was it Barthes or Derrida who divorced meaning from intent? The author is dead, man! Etc.

Uno- X · 10-29-2003, 06:44 AM

I'm currently reading it. Weird I must say.

10-20-2003, 06:58 PM	#1
inthehall9393 Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3	Does anyone else belive that "the story of O" is a refernce to Othello? I think it makes sense because both are about love scorned. __________________ In all that we struggle in all we pretend it don't come down to nothing but love in the end

10-20-2003, 07:00 PM	#2
cartman Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Nicaragua Posts: 487	well its not... Damien rice said it himself, he was cycling his bike one day when O popped into his head outta nowhere, then he talks bout crap like relationsships n sh*t always going round and stuff like that. __________________ Too many options may kill a man

10-20-2003, 07:05 PM	#3
inthehall9393 Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3	Well then.. Thank you for clearing that up even though he said so can't that be thought of as an interesting parallel __________________ In all that we struggle in all we pretend it don't come down to nothing but love in the end

10-20-2003, 07:27 PM	#5
Pete Eskimo Friend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 55	yeah but you would get a cheep thrill out of the book...i may buy it..[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img] __________________ We ourselves may be loved only for a brief time... Even so, that will suffice... There is a land for the living and there is a land for the dead.

10-20-2003, 07:31 PM	#6
inthehall9393 Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3	Who wrote story of O? the novel? sounds interesting __________________ In all that we struggle in all we pretend it don't come down to nothing but love in the end

10-20-2003, 07:23 PM	#4
tis_me_Tania Eskimo Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Posts: 668	oh. fora sec there i thought you were were reffering to the actual Story of O, as in the novel. hasanyone read it? i heard it was good.. very 'sexually exotic'. i was thinking about buying it just to see if i can compareit with Damiens music, although ithink theres nothing really in common since Damos music comes from experience and not a book. i woulddefinitely stillbuy it if someone gave it a thumbs up.

10-20-2003, 10:52 PM	#9
dara Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States Posts: 271	shes one dirty bitch[img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

10-21-2003, 03:20 AM	#11
nightingale333 Eskimo Friend Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 67	Hmm, maybe one could read the "Story of O" and listen to "O" at the same time, and achieve some sort of spiritual nirvana. [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img] __________________ "I was just thinking, merely thinking..."

10-21-2003, 04:23 AM	#12
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	As I remember it 'the story of O' refers to the book, although he hadn't read it (he claims)... the album title 'O' does not... it just jumped into his head... and the two are unconnected... why? who knows...

10-22-2003, 03:05 PM	#17
#Ian# Destroyer of worlds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,783	I've been listening to the Union Chapel CD and my suspicion that he's been singing "read me the story of old" the whole time seem to be confirmed, anyone else get think its that.

10-22-2003, 03:28 PM	#18
tis_me_Tania Eskimo Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Posts: 668	funny you said that cus i heard the Union Chapel cdbefore O.. and i thought it said that same thing, but the lyrics said otherwise. plus.. read me the story of old doesnt make much sense?.. of course..unless theres another story of old somewhere.. :/but i think its just the way Damien stretches out "o" in that verse. on the album you can hear O perfectly fine.

10-23-2003, 03:17 PM	#19
gaelynn Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22	Yeah, me too, I always thought it was 'read me a story of old' as well. I'm sure it is. How Damien's probably laughing to think we are all trying to discern some deep connection between his lyrics anda classic seventiesstory of female submission (also made into a very famous film)... he probablyvisits the boards from time to time.

10-23-2003, 06:56 PM	#20
tis_me_Tania Eskimo Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Posts: 668	ahh he wouldnt laught at us. we're his dear and faithfull followers! lol..plus one cant help but think it does since he names the album O and then makes a reference to it in Amie. and hmm.. i wonder if he does check the boards. i heard a while ago that Lisa was a member. of course, one cant be really sure. mhmm.. [love ya Damien!!![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] come to south florida dammit!!(just in case if he's peeking in =/ )]

10-27-2003, 10:46 AM	#21
gaelynn Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22	I'm sure it's fair to say that the main lyrical controversy about Amie is that it's nigh-on impossible to sing along to it without wanting to sing 'Amie, come sit on my... face'. Sorry, but it's true. We were all thinking it, I just happened to say it.

10-27-2003, 03:28 PM	#22
Aisling Mel is so hot right now Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bromwich suite Posts: 2,773	can i ask a question? why does everyone get so wrapped up in the story of o and interpretations of everything? i just enjoy the music. __________________ america is so hot right now

10-28-2003, 06:45 PM	#28
tis_me_Tania Eskimo Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Posts: 668	i dont know about the meaning of a song not being our business. if we're the ones that buy aalbum based on the lyricalcontent and meaning..how can it not be our business? i know im naturallyvery curious, so maybe that has something to do with it.heh..ihonestly dont expect anyone to understand it either. aww cute smiley

10-29-2003, 05:30 AM	#29
gaelynn Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22	Music, like any art form, is about communication. If you write music with lyrics, then they're part of that communication. Sure, it's not your 'duty', as the writer, to ensure they're crystal clear, and they may mean something very personal to you, but they are still a form of communication, else why write 'em at all. So we have a right to our interest, though Damien equally would have a right not to explain further. Anyway was it Barthes or Derrida who divorced meaning from intent? The author is dead, man! Etc.

10-29-2003, 06:44 AM	#30
Uno- X Eskimo CSI Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,495	I'm currently reading it. Weird I must say. __________________ Do you realize that you have the most beautiful face? Do you realize we're floating in space?