The Penis monologues

[dylanfan]

[quote=ytz1]
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The problem goes deeper. It might be the hundreds of years of religious oppression, but masturbation is still questionable. I keep trying to figure out how (in the far off future) I’m going to explain this healthy, harmless act to my child (I’m not even in a relationship and I’m contemplating explaining masturbation to my son?!?!?!) Men are not completely out yet about their masturbation habits.
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DUDE. DEEP STUFF. YOU MIGHT BE FAR MORE FULLY EVOLVED THAN I. BUT...
HEY! LET"S ALL GATHER ROUND AND ADMIT IT! MASTUBATION A GREAT HOBBY! AS WOODY ALLEN ONCE SAID HOW COULD YOU KNOCK IT? ITS SEX WITH SOMEONE I LOVE VERY MUCH.

[Enoch]

Originally Posted by jbalogh

I was just reading about Rasputin... They even have a picture here[img]smileys/smiley9.gif[/img]

That's like something from the butcher's shop ... [img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img]

[julia]

Originally Posted by Enoch

That's like something from the butcher's shop ... [img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img]

I didn't say it was pretty [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img] I said that they had a picture [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

[mestonf]

Hey fellow eskimo friends
I have just being reading this whole conversation and it prooves to me (not that i need anymore proving) that Damien Rice is a true legend. This topic about penises shows how that Damien Rice's music has a meaning to it . It shows us that he is a very true musician and what really pisses me off in life is people can't see that.
I personally find some of Damos music hard to realate to because only being 16 i have not really had a long term relationship with a girl but thqat still doesn't stop my love for his music. It doesn't mean though i can't understand what you lot are all talking about.
Being a virgin (BTW I am very drunk in writing all this so i might sound a little stupid - i do apologise!!!!) i agree that masturbation (like "dylanfan" says is a great hobby. It is making love with someone you know. Masturbating is good but also a frustration to me because all i can do is wank and not get a woman ( this is making me sound like an idiot - trust me apparantly i'm not!!!!!!) this is what i feel the emotian Damo i feel gives off. A source of frustration

BUT ANWAY enough about my sad twatty lifestyle why i think Damo is soooo good is because of this forum. The vast conversations we can have about the beauty of his music Long live Damien Rice!

[ytz1]

Where is my head? Thanks to Warren I just reviewed the lyrics to Eskimo Friend - and clearly it's about masturbation (+ with some frustration of the soul as mentioned in the original article)<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />


Am I the only one who missed this concept? - I hope I’m not pulling a Tarentino here, and over intellectualizing. But that means that this sight is all about DR’s dick! Now I really feel like an Eskimo friend… As for the Blower’s Daughter… That’s another story.

[neil_eats]

i havent read anything after what i said after page one. i hope this annoys people.

[cille]

never thought of eskimo friend as being about masturbation. good angle. i'll have to think about that some more in the morning, when i've (hopefully) sobered up.


nights, y'all!

[Gatsby]

eskimo friends to me is about drugs but thats something i want it to be "i look to my eskimo friend, when im down, down, down" to me that speaks reason as sometimes people look to drugs when they are down... what does the whole irish population do... work to pay rent and drink themselves stupid... i know nobody who uses money to do something really worthwhile in the long run. so to me eskimo friend is wrapping up the irish society into one. but thats just me

[emerald]

That's sad.[img]smileys/smiley19.gif[/img]

[SisterMidnight]

Okay, it's past midnight and now I'm drunk (join the club, eh?[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img])-- and to me Eskimo is about an actual imaginary friend (though certainly wrought with other metaphors as Damien is wont to do) but I believe it is actually culled from childhood experiences, and the fact that he had a secret childhood language and called himself by an imaginary secret name (Dodi Ma) only confirms to me that he once had an imaginary friend that helped him through tough times and when he allowed himself to actually create and stopped trying to force his music into some mold or expectation of what someone else wanted, he created Eskimo. Eskimo was his epiphany, and our good fortune, because it allowed him the freedom to become the extraordinary artist he is today. He followed his heart.... but I like to think it was his imaginary friend that led him to it. And if you want to know the truth, I think he still has imaginary friends-- just like I do. (What?? You all didn't know you were figments of my imagination? [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img])

[ytz1]

MaybeEskimo friend is what we long for - buddy, masturbation, drugs.

[SisterMidnight]

Longing.... frustration... yeah. All of the above.

[Jokerplunge]

wow.... i never knew so many people could talk about penises and masturbation for so long!!! LoL [img]smileys/smiley29.gif[/img]

[*minx*]

EEEEEWWWWWWW! I will never, ever EVER feel the same way about pickled anything EVER AGAIN!!!!!! [img]smileys/smiley3.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley3.gif[/img].


Since this is drunk people talking about penises and I seem to be still under the effects of alcohol at 8am, arent penises great?!!?!?!


Yes ytz - Masturbation = physical hungers quenched


Drugs = Euphoria, Ultimate happiness, utopia within ourselves


Buddy = Someone to tell us our way of life is great!!!

[maccas81]

yeah but anyway...getting back to that rasputin guy....!!

[*minx*]

I hope he wore a chastity belt his ENTIRE life.


Or a 'DO NOT LOOK YOU WILL DAMAGE YOUR EYES, BRAIN AND POSSIBLY LOSE ALL ATTRACTION FOR MALES' belt too. (This doesnt exactly apply to everyone).

[maccas81]

yeah i was gonna say that there were probably quite a few preists and bishops that found that quite attractive!!![img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

[Magnus]

To me "eskimo" is about being able to turn to music (listening to or composing) when you're going through tough times.

[Magnus]

Though I like Jeweller's interpretation very much as well.

[Wolf_eyes]

Originally Posted by ytz1

Thanks for all the replies – I’m glad so many people understand me. I have so many comments to share – I hope I can relay them all:
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As far as Dr. J being in control – I obviously did not mean that literally. Only on Ally Mcbeill can someone actually attempt to defend themselves by claiming – “it wasn’t me, it was my dick.” (not that I’ve ever seen the show…) Nevertheless, I consider myself to be somewhat in control of my “passion” yet can anyone here deny that they have behaved differently then planned when under the influence of the erection?
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The problem goes deeper. It might be the hundreds of years of religious oppression, but masturbation is still questionable. I keep trying to figure out how (in the far off future) I’m going to explain this healthy, harmless act to my child (I’m not even in a relationship and I’m contemplating explaining masturbation to my son?!?!?!) Men are not completely out yet about their masturbation habits.
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What I’m asking to embrace is our weakness. Don’t get me wrong, sex should be done responsibly, and our intellect should rule us – nevertheless, we should be aware of our beast and not feel shamed by it.
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BTW – all the guys that don’t know what I’m talking about – and think they are proud of their penis – get in touch with your emotions – you are compensating.
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Damien Rice puts it well. So much intelligent “romantic emotion” and then a song like Woman Like a Man blasts it all. (or the example I gave in the original post – “is this love? Is this porn?)
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I once went to the Vagina Monologues. It was very disturbing to me. I was disturbed by the comedy of it – I did not find it funny. I felt bad for anyone woman who did not get to know herself, or only found themselves later in life. It’s sad that society could create such a distance between someone and themselves (we are all distant enough as it is.) I was also disturbed that men have to compensate for our insecurities by feeling confident with our sexuality – I wish it was true.
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As for my Eskimo friends – I do appreciate people who appreciate what DR has to offer – I’m sick of Brittany Girls, or girls who want guys to be MEN. Thanks for appreciating us emotional types. I’m sure Lisa would agree (hope.)
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As for Rasputin, how come no one has brought up the fact that the man has a Bonny M song about him (Not that I ever listen to Bonny M…)

Ok...where to start...Does sex drive have an influence? certainly! Have I ever acted differently because I was horny? sure! But I would not pin the blame on my biological functions, as I (once again, whatever you believe 'I' is) am in control of my body, not vice versa. Influencing, yes. Controlling, no.


As far as explaining masturbation to your child...to each his own. Some may want to explain, others may want to let the child figure it out himself. Funny true story: When I was a kid (very young, way before normal, I think) I thought I invented masturbation. I was very excited. I ran and told my friends..."hey guys, you'll never believe this!"


I dont view it as a 'weakness'. Why should I? I am not 'less' because I get an erection.


Ok, with this part you lose me. Quite simply, you are not capable of making the judgement on whether or not I am 'in touch with my feelings' over the internet.Nor can you tell if I am 'compensating'.I can be'proud' of my body without being arrogant oremotionally closed.





I agree. Damien puts a lot of things well.


NEver saw the vagina monolouges....but I've read two or three. I have mixed feelings about it as well.


I concur.


and lastly......rasputin.....what can I say? I just hope no one cuts off my penis and pickles it for display in a museum someday.

[ytz1]

I do believe anything could be interpeted as being about masterbation, and in the case of Eskimo, I think it might not be true (however, still an amusing way of thinking about it - "Harder now with higher speed.")But as i read more of Damien's lyrics I am finding more and more this conflict of love and lust, brains and emotion, physical and spiritual. "loving is good when it's not understood" - the conflict of brain and love/emotion. He's the professor and feels that he should know, but he can't control his dick (i might once again be projecting.) I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

[Donsie B!]

umm....eskimo!

[SisterMidnight]

Hey hi ytz1! Haven't seen you around in awhile.


I've been listening to Eskimo lately too, really listening to it....


I think it's just about life... how you're searching for something to give your life meaning (inspiration), some direction... and how lonely and exhausting it can be sometimes.. "harder now with higher speed, washing in on top of me" seems to me like its saying life itself is getting harder, maybe even overwhelming... and that's when you look to your "eskimo friend" (or friends) to help you get through it... just my interpretation.

Originally Posted by ytz1

I do believe anything could be interpeted as being about masterbation...

This is so Freudian! But yeah, Eskimo? No.


"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Sigmund Freud (sorry jayavo... had to do it)

Originally Posted by Jeweller

eskimo friends to me is about drugs...

Emily agrees with you andtold meto tell you that you're right.[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

[steveboswell]

I remember having a discussion only a couple of weeks ago about songs
which people liked, then disliked once they found out the true/widely
accepted seond meaning of it. I think</span> the song 'Golden Brown' (?) is about drugs, for example, but most people just enjoy it for the tune.



I've never really thought</span>
about the lyrics of any of Damien's songs before, probably because the
music and the whole sensation of listening to his music is so
fulfilling (oh er) and I've never needed to look any deeper into his
music.



My favourite from "O" has to be 'Eskimo', and it still is, despite the
alternative meanings I've discovered here. I can't understand people
who suddenly dislike a song just because other people associate it with
(usually) less socially acceptable values. What do others think?



I hope that made sense.



Bozz |</span> Merry Christmas</span>

[Spamlet]

Sorry but"Me, My Yoke and I" is clearlyDamo's masturbation anthem.


Eskimo on the other hand couldn't possibly be.


Anyone with a cock will tell ya why: Shrinkage.[img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img]

[Donsie B!]

i can relate to that[img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

[cille]

nice to see this thread *ehem* bounce back[img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

[Donsie B!]

its been to long since a eskimo/masterbation thread cille!

[mestonf]

Originally Posted by Donsie B!

its been to long since a eskimo/masterbation thread cille!

O good wheres this one going to go! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

But i can see the resemblance (sp?) whith Me, My Yoke and I

[ytz1]

Sorry to be away from my favorite subject for this long.
I agree that Me My Yoke and I can be interpreted as a masturbation reference - but I’ve only read the lyrics - where can i get this song?
For those who only listen to DR’s music, and pay no attention to his lyrics, I think in his case – the lyrics and music go hand in hand, and neither could or should be ignored.

As for eskimo friends - sorry to beat a dead horse (not a masturbation reference) Penis's resemble an eskimo with a hood on. and "Harder now at higher speed" - come on! This one is pretty clear.

But now i would like to turn to another part of my original post and add a new theory that will connect to the ladies too.
As i mentioned, an awkward silence fell over all the men in the audience when DR mentioned masturbation. I've already discussed the concepts of shame that man has (see original post) but now I'd like to look into the woman's reaction, which was to giggle.
I have only done unofficial research on this, but it seems that woman are capable of having an orgasm at a much younger age then men (I have heard from various ex's and freinds, stories about the monkey bars, the corner of a first grade desk, or just good old fashioned rubbing.)
Men reach such a sexual maturity usually in the early teens. This is an age in which it is understood (almost) and somewhat appreciated. Men will bond to overcome the awkwardness and share Having an orgasm. We can communicate and comprehend what we are doing.
However, girls, at such a young age cannot communicate or begin to understand what they are doing, and I'm sure if they tried, they would be reprimanded or silenced. Imagine the trauma this must cause a young girl which will affect her sexuality for the rest of her life. I know of cases of girl best friends who would tell each other everything, except for this one topic. This secrecy, and possible reprimanding, will lead a woman to feel shame and guilt for masturbating - even as an adult. Even in these modern-sex-in-the-city days, women are not completely connected to their sexuality.
So when DR mentions a man's need to masturbate they giggle at the beast, but is it possibly to hide their own shame? Sorry to get all psychological, and I hope this thread is being treated with the same maturity I intended it to.

Love to hear comments.