Religion

Baby Sister · 07-18-2004, 08:52 PM

Is Damien an atheist? Or did I make that up?

Sionna · 07-18-2004, 08:54 PM

Dont know what his view of religion is [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

Banjaxed · 07-18-2004, 08:55 PM

I dunno, but he makes a lot of references to God for an atheist.

mestonf · 07-18-2004, 08:56 PM

mmm....not sure about this one.......what references are they banjaxed?

lonelilly_lil · 07-18-2004, 09:03 PM

cold water:

"lord can you hear me now?"

for one example......cant think of anyothers

mestonf · 07-18-2004, 09:05 PM

aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh good example lil i see now....yep what religion is he?!?!? mmmmmmm!?!?

Banjaxed · 07-18-2004, 09:06 PM

Here's a few, there are more too... esp, if you interpret loosely:

Delicate
We might make love in some sacred place

Cold Water
Lord, can you hear me now?

I Remember
God will forgive me

The Professor
Well closer to God is the one who's in love

One other thing, that never occurred to me until someone said it: I was singing Cold Water one night. I did the really deep voice, "the monk bit" or "the gregorian chant". This girl who'd never heard the song before came up to me afterwards and said "I really liked your God voice". I'd never considered before that that part was the voice of God, but it does fit perfectly.Edited by: Banjaxed

mestonf · 07-18-2004, 09:08 PM

mmmm...yeah good work banjaxed and also chants are things that are heavily used in churches

mabye damo just as well as his music finds religion very beautiful and peaceful but doesn't actually follow a specific one

Gatsby · 07-18-2004, 09:11 PM

very good point banjaxed... thinking about it now it does sound like god speaking [img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]

anyways i wont get into a religion debate as i have some very un-authordoxed views on it [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

Banjaxed · 07-18-2004, 09:13 PM

Think damo said once before that he spent some time in/around a monastary (maybe in Tuscany). That's probably where he picked up the Gregorian chant stuff. I actually havea CD of Gregorian Chanting here. It's interesting stuff... for a while.

He also talked before (maybe in the same interview) about going to see the Dalai Lama (he didn't get to see him tho cause he fell of his bike on the way). Sounds like someone who is at least spiritual if not of a religion.Edited by: Banjaxed

lainey · 07-18-2004, 09:14 PM

Which you r entitled to!![img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

mestonf · 07-18-2004, 09:15 PM

yeah i must say that i like gregorian chants my favourite being

allegri - misirerie

but i agree jeweller religion can get quite a long winded conversation sometimes

mestonf · 07-18-2004, 09:15 PM

yeah damo does seem more spiritual then religious

Aisling · 07-18-2004, 09:34 PM

for some reason i thought he was an atheist too for some reason...

Kristi · 07-19-2004, 04:10 AM

Interesting thread.... I never really thought about it too much, because i thought at one of his gigs i heard him say that he was raised catholic (in one of his stories about "taking care" of himself [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img])

Kristi · 07-19-2004, 04:12 AM

although, on typing that i realized that being raised in a certain religion is hardly a guarantee that that person will remain in that faith.... but im with simon on not getting into a religion debate[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

greenlee2 · 07-19-2004, 04:36 AM

Everyone in my family was raised catholic, but hardly anyone still practices the catholic faith, so i see what you're saying there Kristi.

Spamlet · 07-19-2004, 06:11 AM

I'm a recovering Catholic myself.

Damo is definitely a spiritual dude but I don't believe he follows any one religion, it's more like a mixture of positive energy sources and teachings.

Rain · 07-19-2004, 07:41 AM

[img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]It has never occurred to me that Damien might be an atheist.

Yeah, I don't think he sticks solely to one religion. In an interview, he said something about not agreeing that only one view is correct, when it comes to religion. I remember him saying something like, "What about the Qu'ran? What about the <something>" etc etc. [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]Don't remember which interview that was.

uluru · 07-19-2004, 03:56 PM

my favourite being allegri - misirerie

An amazing chant!

You have good taste

LostCause · 07-19-2004, 05:41 PM

I think I've heard something about him being a catholic too. And I dont know why, but I think I've seen an interview with him where he says that he belives in "a God". Not in any spesific religion.

"hallelujah" has nothing to do with religion right?? Im thinking about "delicate". And Buckley's "hallelujah"... If that made any sense..

mestonf · 07-19-2004, 06:55 PM

doesn't hallelujah have everything to do with religion?

LostCause · 07-19-2004, 07:02 PM

Of course... But Damo and J. Buckley uses hallelujah for something else right?? A description of something really big, beautiful etc...

Do you know what I mean??[img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

#Ian# · 07-19-2004, 07:38 PM

Well Leonard Cohen who wrote the song seemed to be talking about religion, love and obsession when he wrote it. There are references in the lyrics to King David.

LostCause · 07-19-2004, 08:22 PM

I've read somewhere that Buckley said hallelujah was about love, sex and an orgasm. Buckley's "hallelujah" has for me always been about someone who misses his girlfriend. About having sex, and all the love that's in it.And that girl couldnt see that. She moved on and found another lover.A broken hallelujah.

Well there was a time when you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show that to me do ya
But remember when I moved in you
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath you drew was Hallelujah

Maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya
It's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Have you heard Buckleys medley of Hallelujah/I know its over?? That song makes me ever more certain of what I'm saying.

I think the first verse is about an orgasm. A secret chord.

The baffled king composing Hallelujah...

Am I totally wrong?? I hope not. This has been the best lyrics I've ever read. It about how we all should live. How love should be...

rileyf · 07-20-2004, 01:09 AM

wow gret interpretation, i always assumed it was religious. i like
ur idea better!

LostCause · 07-20-2004, 03:10 PM

Thanx. So what I really ment was that hallelujah isnt always used in a religious way. It think its a description on something really beautiful almost holy or something. Like in this case, the sex.

Shazne · 07-20-2004, 03:21 PM

That's amazing.

I never thought of the hallelujah lyrics like that.

I love kathryn Williams' version [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

mestonf · 07-20-2004, 05:53 PM

good thinking lost cause!! [img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]

LostCause · 07-20-2004, 06:28 PM

I've used a lot of time on that one. The song is sooo beautiful so I just had to know what it was really about. But I could be totally wrong too..[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

07-18-2004, 08:52 PM	#1
Baby Sister Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 11	Is Damien an atheist? Or did I make that up? __________________ I don't know if I'm wrong, 'cause she's only just gone

07-18-2004, 08:54 PM	#2
Sionna Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,131	Dont know what his view of religion is [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img] __________________ Emmett Tinley World Domination Commission (ETWDC)

07-18-2004, 08:55 PM	#3
Banjaxed Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 620	I dunno, but he makes a lot of references to God for an atheist. __________________ I'll build a tower in your name and you will do the same, won't you my love, won't you my love? Won't you my love?

07-18-2004, 08:56 PM	#4
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	mmm....not sure about this one.......what references are they banjaxed? __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-18-2004, 09:03 PM	#5
lonelilly_lil Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 242	cold water: "lord can you hear me now?" for one example......cant think of anyothers __________________ licking a plug socket will NOT turn you into a Mighty Morphin Power Ranger

07-18-2004, 09:05 PM	#6
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh good example lil i see now....yep what religion is he?!?!? mmmmmmm!?!? __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-18-2004, 09:06 PM	#7
Banjaxed Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 620	Here's a few, there are more too... esp, if you interpret loosely: Delicate We might make love in some sacred place Cold Water Lord, can you hear me now? I Remember God will forgive me The Professor Well closer to God is the one who's in love One other thing, that never occurred to me until someone said it: I was singing Cold Water one night. I did the really deep voice, "the monk bit" or "the gregorian chant". This girl who'd never heard the song before came up to me afterwards and said "I really liked your God voice". I'd never considered before that that part was the voice of God, but it does fit perfectly.Edited by: Banjaxed __________________ I'll build a tower in your name and you will do the same, won't you my love, won't you my love? Won't you my love?

07-18-2004, 09:08 PM	#8
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	mmmm...yeah good work banjaxed and also chants are things that are heavily used in churches mabye damo just as well as his music finds religion very beautiful and peaceful but doesn't actually follow a specific one __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-18-2004, 09:11 PM	#9
Gatsby Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,809	very good point banjaxed... thinking about it now it does sound like god speaking [img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img] anyways i wont get into a religion debate as i have some very un-authordoxed views on it [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

07-18-2004, 09:13 PM	#10
Banjaxed Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 620	Think damo said once before that he spent some time in/around a monastary (maybe in Tuscany). That's probably where he picked up the Gregorian chant stuff. I actually havea CD of Gregorian Chanting here. It's interesting stuff... for a while. He also talked before (maybe in the same interview) about going to see the Dalai Lama (he didn't get to see him tho cause he fell of his bike on the way). Sounds like someone who is at least spiritual if not of a religion.Edited by: Banjaxed __________________ I'll build a tower in your name and you will do the same, won't you my love, won't you my love? Won't you my love?

07-18-2004, 09:14 PM	#11
lainey Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: PROC Posts: 230	Which you r entitled to!![img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

07-18-2004, 09:15 PM	#12
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	yeah i must say that i like gregorian chants my favourite being allegri - misirerie but i agree jeweller religion can get quite a long winded conversation sometimes __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-18-2004, 09:34 PM	#14
Aisling Mel is so hot right now Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bromwich suite Posts: 2,773	for some reason i thought he was an atheist too for some reason... __________________ america is so hot right now

07-19-2004, 04:10 AM	#15
Kristi The Prodigal Eskimo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: We are nowhere and this is now. Posts: 2,397	Interesting thread.... I never really thought about it too much, because i thought at one of his gigs i heard him say that he was raised catholic (in one of his stories about "taking care" of himself [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]) __________________ I like you, do you like me?

07-19-2004, 04:12 AM	#16
Kristi The Prodigal Eskimo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: We are nowhere and this is now. Posts: 2,397	although, on typing that i realized that being raised in a certain religion is hardly a guarantee that that person will remain in that faith.... but im with simon on not getting into a religion debate[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img] __________________ I like you, do you like me?

07-19-2004, 04:36 AM	#17
greenlee2 Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United States Posts: 445	Everyone in my family was raised catholic, but hardly anyone still practices the catholic faith, so i see what you're saying there Kristi. __________________ You know when you've found it, There's something I've learned 'Cause you feel it when they take it away

07-19-2004, 06:11 AM	#18
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	I'm a recovering Catholic myself. Damo is definitely a spiritual dude but I don't believe he follows any one religion, it's more like a mixture of positive energy sources and teachings.

07-19-2004, 07:41 AM	#19
Rain Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	[img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]It has never occurred to me that Damien might be an atheist. Yeah, I don't think he sticks solely to one religion. In an interview, he said something about not agreeing that only one view is correct, when it comes to religion. I remember him saying something like, "What about the Qu'ran? What about the <something>" etc etc. [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]Don't remember which interview that was.

07-19-2004, 03:56 PM	#20
uluru Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8	my favourite being allegri - misirerie An amazing chant! You have good taste __________________ Sic Itur Ad Astra

07-19-2004, 05:41 PM	#21
LostCause Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 188	I think I've heard something about him being a catholic too. And I dont know why, but I think I've seen an interview with him where he says that he belives in "a God". Not in any spesific religion. "hallelujah" has nothing to do with religion right?? Im thinking about "delicate". And Buckley's "hallelujah"... If that made any sense.. __________________ ...and you're tryin' to remember how fine your life used to be running around banging your drum like it's ninteeen seventy three well that was the river this is the sea...

07-19-2004, 06:55 PM	#22
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	doesn't hallelujah have everything to do with religion? __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-19-2004, 07:02 PM	#23
LostCause Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 188	Of course... But Damo and J. Buckley uses hallelujah for something else right?? A description of something really big, beautiful etc... Do you know what I mean??[img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] __________________ ...and you're tryin' to remember how fine your life used to be running around banging your drum like it's ninteeen seventy three well that was the river this is the sea...

07-19-2004, 07:38 PM	#24
#Ian# Destroyer of worlds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,783	Well Leonard Cohen who wrote the song seemed to be talking about religion, love and obsession when he wrote it. There are references in the lyrics to King David. __________________ One day we will die and our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see

07-19-2004, 08:22 PM	#25
LostCause Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 188	I've read somewhere that Buckley said hallelujah was about love, sex and an orgasm. Buckley's "hallelujah" has for me always been about someone who misses his girlfriend. About having sex, and all the love that's in it.And that girl couldnt see that. She moved on and found another lover.A broken hallelujah. Well there was a time when you let me know What's really going on below But now you never show that to me do ya But remember when I moved in you And the holy dove was moving too And every breath you drew was Hallelujah Maybe there's a God above But all I've ever learned from love Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya It's not a cry that you hear at night It's not somebody who's seen the light It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah Have you heard Buckleys medley of Hallelujah/I know its over?? That song makes me ever more certain of what I'm saying. I think the first verse is about an orgasm. A secret chord. The baffled king composing Hallelujah... Am I totally wrong?? I hope not. This has been the best lyrics I've ever read. It about how we all should live. How love should be... __________________ ...and you're tryin' to remember how fine your life used to be running around banging your drum like it's ninteeen seventy three well that was the river this is the sea...

07-20-2004, 01:09 AM	#26
rileyf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indiana, United States Posts: 450	wow gret interpretation, i always assumed it was religious. i like ur idea better! __________________ stop whispering, start shouting

07-20-2004, 03:10 PM	#27
LostCause Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 188	Thanx. So what I really ment was that hallelujah isnt always used in a religious way. It think its a description on something really beautiful almost holy or something. Like in this case, the sex. __________________ ...and you're tryin' to remember how fine your life used to be running around banging your drum like it's ninteeen seventy three well that was the river this is the sea...

07-20-2004, 03:21 PM	#28
Shazne Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oman Posts: 98	That's amazing. I never thought of the hallelujah lyrics like that. I love kathryn Williams' version [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img] __________________ Rule No. 1 Carpe Diem

07-20-2004, 05:53 PM	#29
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	good thinking lost cause!! [img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img] __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-20-2004, 06:28 PM	#30
LostCause Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 188	I've used a lot of time on that one. The song is sooo beautiful so I just had to know what it was really about. But I could be totally wrong too..[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] __________________ ...and you're tryin' to remember how fine your life used to be running around banging your drum like it's ninteeen seventy three well that was the river this is the sea...