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Old 05-13-2012, 01:44 PM   #1
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Default Delicate vs. new Mraz

a couple people have mentioned to me that the new Jason Mraz single, called I Won't Give Up, sounds pretty similar to Damo's Delicate!!



What do you reckon????? I don't see much similarity myself, more than the tempo...
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:16 PM   #2
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It's not the first time I hear this comparison, but I heard the whole new Mraz album sounds like "early Damien Rice". Not sure what it means... I gave a listen to it and doesn't sound like Damien at all to me...
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:50 PM   #3
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I downloaded the last Mraz album and found it unlistenable, but i've never been a fan of Mraz...

don't see much similarity between this and Delicate either
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:12 PM   #4
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The chorus does sound a bit like Delicate, but the verses are much closer to an old David Kitt song, Sweet Summer Morning.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:02 AM   #5
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Yeah, don't see a whole lot in common. His new album especially sounds nothing like 'O' aside from it being at a slower tempo than his previous stuff.
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Yup, I see three main elements of similarity just on first listen: 1) a few chords from delicate ARE the same right before he starts singing (38-42 seconds in and repeated later throughout). 2) The chorus IS pretty similar (try singing Delicate's over it). 3) The unexpected way both go from quiet and gentle to very passionate, achy shouting half-way through and then back down.

Not anywhere near as bald-faced as Gaga was about simply renaming "What's Up?" to "You and I" or "Express Yourself" to "Born This Way" but still pretty hard to deny he borrowed more than a little.
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:32 AM   #7
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I can hear it but that's how music goes. Only so many options. I liked this review though.

Atmospherics: It's like if someone took Damien Rice's "Delicate" and said, "Hey, you know what might be cool? If I took this and kind of tried to turn this into a country song." Gross. Combining two things tangentially similar like that never works. Oh, except for Dinocroc. Dinocroc worked like gangbusters. I mean, he feeds on fear, bro. FEAR. He's like Freddy Kreuger, except he can get you when you're awake too. That's terrifying.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:18 AM   #8
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Yup, I see three main elements of similarity just on first listen: 1) a few chords from delicate ARE the same right before he starts singing (38-42 seconds in and repeated later throughout). 2) The chorus IS pretty similar (try singing Delicate's over it). 3) The unexpected way both go from quiet and gentle to very passionate, achy shouting half-way through and then back down.

Not anywhere near as bald-faced as Gaga was about simply renaming "What's Up?" to "You and I" or "Express Yourself" to "Born This Way" but still pretty hard to deny he borrowed more than a little.
similar to 'grey room', the chords are basically C and F (with capo) with hammer ons, which are pretty common and part of many song compositions....I believe their is a song out their Identical to Grey room (relased later) which is not a surprise, but i dont believe Damien 'invented' this pattern
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It's not because those 2 common chords are shared (here and in countless other songs) it's because of where they're placed, the ringing out resolve, identical soft strum pattern and context tempo which combine to make it so prominent.

In both this and "Delicate" they come right at the end of the instrumental introduction and sustain in an otherwise silence immediately before the first line is sung which makes for something of a hook (and I'd argue it's the pulloff rather than the hammer-ons since those aren't what's shared). Had he buried them under the melody it probably wouldn't have made anyone even notice.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:13 PM   #10
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It never would have occurred to me, but now that you guys mention it, the chorus does sound a tiny little bit similar. But there are much more blatant "rip-offs" out there. Plants and Animals have a song called "Good Friend", which reminds me of "Me, My Yoke, and I" every single time I listen to it.
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