To anyone who is/was very familiar with Juniper

[Nine]

Could you do me a big favour? I have recently downloaded a lot of old Juniper tracks, but have no idea what albums/releases they are from.

Could somebody tell me how many albums they released, or show me where I can see a full list of the named albums + tracklistings?

Or even better, type me out one here!

thanks guys
x

[Beevers_uk]

Title: J-Plane (1994)
Format: Cassette
Copyright: Juniper

01. Full Moon
02. Rusted Sparkle
03. Indeterminate
04. Not Quite Divine
05. Enough

Recorded at Barn recording studio March 1994.
Five or six track EP. Tracks possibly included 'Full Moon' and 'Strong'.


Title: Manna (1995)
Format: CDS
Copyright: Juniper
Running Time: (21:09)

Tracks:
01. Insane (7:14)
02. Lie To An Angel (5:39)
03. Shannon Court (3:56)
04. Relief (4:18)

Recorded at The Barracks, Clonoughlis - Dec' 1995
Engineered and mixed by: Stefano Jaconelli
Produced by Stefano Jaconelli and Juniper
Cello on 'Insane' by: Vyvienne Long
Photography and design by: Anita Murphy


Title: Weatherman (January 30 1998)
Format: CDS
Cat. No.: 469344/2
Copyright: PolyGram Ireland

Tracks:
01. Weatherman (3:51)
02. Little Sister (3:25)
03. Rage (3:18)

Track 1: Windmill Lane Studios, September 1997
Track 2: Windmill Lane Studios, September 1997
Track 3: Sulan Studios, Ballyvourney, Co. Cork, June 1996


Title: World Is Dead (June 1998)
Format: CDS
Cat. No.: 567067/2
Copyright: PolyGram Ireland

Tracks:
01. World Is Dead (3:38)
02. You (4:36)
03. Orchard (4:33)
04. Weatherman (Bobby Wonder Remix) (5:13)

Other possible track listing: World Is Dead / Wooden Horse / Volcano (Early Version).

Compilations


Artist: Various Artists
Title: Natural Born Elvis (August 1998)
Format: CD
Cat. No.: DPG 001
Copyright: Dam Good Productions

Tracks:
01. Loyko And Darlene - Devil In Disguise (1:14)
02. Whipping Boy - Suspicious Minds (4:15)
03. Jack L - Trouble (2:49)
0. Juniper - I Just Can't Help Believing (4:14)
05. An Emotional Fish with Seanie Foy - Wear My Ring Around Your Neck (5:45)
06. Notch with King Sativa - As Long As I Have You (2:46)
07. Kila - Hunk Of Burning Love (3:02)
08. Blink - Heartbreak Hotel (5:02)
09. Engine Alley - Suspicion (2:46)
10. Craft - Fever (3:56)
11. Yuma - Love Me Tender (3:58)
12. Mundy - That's Alright Mama (3:12)
13. Loyko And Darlene - Devil In Disguise (0:46)

Childline benefit CD.


Artist: Various Artists
Title: Heineken Green Energy (1998)
Format: CD (Cover Disc)
Copyright: Hot Press

Tracks:
01. Good Advice - Texas
02. When The Lights Go Out Over Europe - The Divine Comedy
03. Mr. Blue - Junkster
04. Caruso - Gavin Friday
05. Johnny Come Lately - Catatonia
06. Weatherman - Juniper
07. What Makes You Dance? - Pelvis
08. Hurt Sometimes - Aslan
09. Hurry On Sundown - Kula Shaker
10. By The Sea - Suede

Miscellaneous


Title: 2FM Session (1996)
Format: DAT
Copyright: 2FM

01. Expensive Silence (3:30)
02. Then Go (5:46)
03. Never (5:25)
04. Deliverance (3:43)

"The band that is now the core of BELL X1 but at the time had a lead singer called Damien Rice - and what became of them all - sank into obscurity no doubt!"

http://www.irishmusiccentral.com/jun...scography.html

[Nine]

Beevers - you are an absolute God!
You can do no wrong!
You have clearly taken generosity pills. Thank You

<--- me

[sissy0584]

where can i find some juniper's music???
actually i don't have any song...

[Spamlet]

Originally Posted by Nine

Could you do me a big favour? I have recently downloaded a lot of old Juniper tracks, but have no idea what albums/releases they are from.

Could somebody tell me how many albums they released, or show me where I can see a full list of the named albums + tracklistings?

Or even better, type me out one here!

thanks guys
x

The majority of the tracks, if not all of the ones, you received are likely from the rarities CDs. The tracklisting varies slightly but these were mostly the songs they had yet to put out. They're also naturally mainly the ones Damo and BX-1 have since re-recorded or played live.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by Spamlet

The majority of the tracks, if not all of the ones, you received are likely from the rarities CDs. The tracklisting varies slightly but these were mostly the songs they had yet to put out. They're also naturally mainly the ones Damo and BX-1 have since re-recorded or played live.

oh really? What, so not from the ones beevers listed?
I seem to have a fair few rom the listed

to whoever asked - you can get some from:

www.davejeffery.com/bellx1/upload - but i've accuired various tracks from places and people i just can't remember too

[Closing_Doors]

A list (off the top of my head), since I'm hungover and incapable of doing anything more constructive:

Full Moon,
Rusted Sparkle,
Indeterminant,
Not Quite Divine,
Enough,
Insane,
Lie To An Angel,
Shannon Court,
Relief,
Expensive Silence,
Then Go,
Never,
Deliverance,
Eskimo,
Volcano,
Face,
I Remember December,
Woman Like A Man,
Beautiful Madness,
Sex Change,
Cutting The Rose,
Ophelia,
Down,
Tongue,
Me, My Yoke & I,
Spaceship,
Wooden Horse,
Slowset,
Offshore,
The Professor,
Voodoo Doll,
Boring Afternoon,
Jewellery Box,
Toffee Pop,
Little Sister,
You,
Weatherman (& Remix),
World is Dead,
Rage,
The Orchard,
Just Can't Help Believing,
Needles,
Matter Of Time.

I've also heard whisperings of some other songs including one called "Girl With the Dirty Hands" but I don't know of any recordings. Also, there are multiple recordings of a select few of the tracks listed above.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by sissy0584

ehm....i'm the whoever that asked...i tried that website but i didn't find anything, better, it denies me to access....thx btw

really? that's very odd :S
ok try typing it into your web browser yourself rather than clicking on the link - and put capitals as follows:

/Bellx1/Uploads

so on the B and the U.

Hope it works!

Originally Posted by Closing_Doors

A list (off the top of my head), since I'm hungover and incapable of doing anything more constructive:

Full Moon,
Rusted Sparkle,
Indeterminant,
Not Quite Divine,
Enough,
Insane,
Lie To An Angel,
Shannon Court,
Relief,
Expensive Silence,
Then Go,
Never,
Deliverance,
Eskimo,
Volcano,
Face,
I Remember December,
Woman Like A Man,
Beautiful Madness,
Sex Change,
Cutting The Rose,
Ophelia,
Down,
Tongue,
Me, My Yoke & I,
Spaceship,
Wooden Horse,
Slowset,
Offshore,
The Professor,
Voodoo Doll,
Boring Afternoon,
Jewellery Box,
Toffee Pop,
Little Sister,
You,
Weatherman (& Remix),
World is Dead,
Rage,
The Orchard,
Just Can't Help Believing,
Needles,
Matter Of Time.

I've also heard whisperings of some other songs including one called "Girl With the Dirty Hands" but I don't know of any recordings. Also, there are multiple recordings of a select few of the tracks listed above.

Thanks very much that's really helpful
Does anybody know where I could find any of the following:

Needles (I have the cake sale version)
Matter Of Time
Voodoo Doll
Slowset
Relief
Shannon Court
Lie To An Angel
Full Moon
Rusted Sparkle
Indeterminant
Not Quite Divine
Enough
Insane



Thanks to everyone for being so helpful!
x

[Lin@]

Does anyone know if there is a possibility to get my hands on the "Manna" EP?!?

I would just looooove to have a full band version of "Insane". I have the unplugged/Damo-only version from KCRW and another AMAZING performance where the f***ing mice stops working in the middle of the song. But I'd really like to have some other recording. And I'm pretty sure that the Juniper version must be totally awesome.

BTW, has Damien ever played "The Orchard" at one of his solo gigs? I absolutely ADORE this song. I'm not really into his "younger" voice, but in this song it just sounds amazing.

[Closing_Doors]

He has never played "The Orchard" that I know of, outside of the Juniper days. Apparently he did play Weatherman once in his current incarnation though.

[Timeé]

Originally Posted by Nine

Needles (I have the cake sale version)

really?!!! how on earth did you get that?

[Spamlet]

Originally Posted by Lin@

Does anyone know if there is a possibility to get my hands on the "Manna" EP?!?

I would just looooove to have a full band version of "Insane". I have the unplugged/Damo-only version from KCRW and another AMAZING performance where the f***ing mice stops working in the middle of the song. But I'd really like to have some other recording. And I'm pretty sure that the Juniper version must be totally awesome.

BTW, has Damien ever played "The Orchard" at one of his solo gigs? I absolutely ADORE this song. I'm not really into his "younger" voice, but in this song it just sounds amazing.

Sorry but both the "Manna" EP and especially the "J-Plane" cassette tape are ridiculously rare. If anybody here has them then they either aren't admitting it or have informed me the condition of their having it was that they weren't permitted to share with even one other person. I'm the only one who's got the direct line on the forthcoming Hiro show tapes, so I doubt they'd hold out in the face of that.

Ah, so Damo uses mice! I always knew he had to have a secret weapon. Those lil fuzzy b*stards can sure strum, eh?

You're right about "The Orchard" it's a pretty incredible song and he should definitely bring that one back out to perhaps rework it just a lil' bit (like much of Juniper it's 'lite' on lyrics and doesn't really even have a second verse just the repeated chorus going into an extended instrumental outro).


Nine,
No, that's not what I meant. I'm saying if you look at how many songs Juniper recorded (around 43 by Closing's count and I consider him the expert here on the band) you'll see that over half of those: I believe 23 songs (unless BX-1 have either renamed some besides 'Never'-or played other ones live in which case an even higher number- I'm not terribly familiar with them) have been brought back out. On the rarities version that I know there are something like 27 tracks (that usually includes two different live versions of "Never") and so if you have all of their EPs (other than the impossible to find first two) and the BX-1 records and Damo's live, rarities etc. then there are only probably about 4 songs on the Juniper rarities with which you won't be familiar (Cutting the Rose, Ophelia, Voodoo Doll, and Down) but it sounds like you have nearly all of those already.

So of the ones you said you still needed only Voodoo Doll, Slowset (and sometimes Needles depending on the tracking) are included in the rarities discs. Slowset, however, is also on BX-1's first album. Voodoo Doll is decent but probably nothing all that amazing that would get re-done.

[Bumpman]

Originally Posted by Spamlet

Sorry but both the "Manna" EP and especially the "J-Plane" cassette tape are ridiculously rare. If anybody here has them then they either aren't admitting it or have informed me the condition of their having it was that they weren't permitted to share with even one other person. I'm the only one who's got the direct line on the forthcoming Hiro show tapes, so I doubt they'd hold out in the face of that.

You'd probably have to stick a €10,000 cheque in with your Hiro Tapes to trade for a copy of J-Plane, to the best of my knowledge it was just distributed to friends of the band at the time; hence people not wanting to give theirs away.

Hypothetically though, imagine if an eskimo did have J-Plane and Manna, that person would be hit with a storm of weird, cheesy, depressing and downright abusive pm's from people who thought they deserved to own the coveted tapes in question.

You can completely understand why this hypothetical person would never mention it again... ever.

[silhouette]

Someone around here posted a link to "Boring Afternoon" so I went to the website and snatched all the Juniper songs they had. I wish I had some hard copies, though.

I'm looking on eBay, and there's a CD, "World is Dead". It looks like the seller wants $50.90 for it, but the bid is at $26.00. Four tracks, seven bids, and it still has two days left. Dang.

[Lin@]

Originally Posted by Spamlet

Ah, so Damo uses mice! I always knew he had to have a secret weapon. Those lil fuzzy b*stards can sure strum, eh?

Didn't you know that? And they're incredible singers, too!

But thanks for the info, guys! Even though it's not what I was hoping for.

Anyway, if there's somebody out there with a decent full band version of "Insane", I'd love to trade for it.

[Spamlet]

Originally Posted by Bumpman

You'd probably have to stick a €10,000 cheque in with your Hiro Tapes to trade for a copy of J-Plane, to the best of my knowledge it was just distributed to friends of the band at the time; hence people not wanting to give theirs away.

Hypothetically though, imagine if an eskimo did have J-Plane and Manna, that person would be hit with a storm of weird, cheesy, depressing and downright abusive pm's from people who thought they deserved to own the coveted tapes in question.

You can completely understand why this hypothetical person would never mention it again... ever.

Egads! I had no idea it was THAT rare!

Thanks for the info though, hypothetical person!

*Doug ducks to avoid the stampeding storm of PM's now furiously shooting out towards Sean's box*

[Closing_Doors]

Originally Posted by Spamlet

I believe 23 songs (unless BX-1 have either renamed some besides 'Never'-or played other ones live in which case an even higher number- I'm not terribly familiar with them) have been brought back out.

To the best of my recollection Bell X1 have recorded: Volcano, Slowset, Offshore, Beautiful Madness, Face, Little Sister, Woman Like A Man, Never (Eve) and Tongue. They also used to play "You" in their early days as Bell X1 and possibly a couple more.

Originally Posted by Spamlet

So of the ones you said you still needed only Voodoo Doll, Slowset (and sometimes Needles depending on the tracking) are included in the rarities discs. Slowset, however, is also on BX-1's first album. Voodoo Doll is decent but probably nothing all that amazing that would get re-done.

Really? Voodoo Doll is one of my favourites! I think Matter Of Time was also supposed to be included on the rarities album but got lost along the way.

Originally Posted by Bumpman

You can completely understand why this hypothetical person would never mention it again... ever.

Seems like a sensible course of action alright.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by Timeé

really?!!! how on earth did you get that?

some irish dude or something... xmas prezzie maybe... can't really remember....
x

[sissy0584]

Originally Posted by Nine

really? that's very odd :S
ok try typing it into your web browser yourself rather than clicking on the link - and put capitals as follows:

/Bellx1/Uploads

so on the B and the U.

Hope it works!

oh i didn't see your reply....it worked before i saw this but thx a lot. I think i just needed to type capital letters for the B and U... well now i have some juniper's music!!!! thanx

[Nine]

Originally Posted by sissy0584

oh i didn't see your reply....it worked before i saw this but thx a lot. I think i just needed to type capital letters for the B and U... well now i have some juniper's music!!!! thanx

no problem m'dear
x

[frozeninfrost]

I would love to be able to listen to some Juniper stuff. I was really excited by the website that was posted by nine, in high anticipation of hearing some Juniper tunes for downloading. But when I tried typing out the link (even with the capitals) it wouldn't work. Could someone send me a link for this that does work? Or point me in the direction of a place to download these tunes? I have tried popular file sharing programs, but there is never enough sources to get a song.

Any help would be muchly appreciated!

[Closing_Doors]

The website is down at the moment, it should be back up soon I imagine.

[Bumpman]

The Juniper collected rarities album is still in this forum... Try to guess which thread!

(I'll give you a clue, it's the sixth post in this thread.)

Which brings me to one of our favourite eskimo sayings; "there's a search button at the top of the page"... Enjoy.