anyone know anything about the grammys?

administrator · 11-20-2007, 11:55 PM

Nominations for the Grammy awards are announced on December 6th. I'm just wondering how likely it is that Damien will get a nomination for 9? It wasn't eligible last year, so this is the first time it is eligible for nomination.

What category / categories is Damien eligible for?

He's much more popular now than when O was released, so hopefully he will get a nomination. It would be great for Irish music to have some more acts at the Grammys.

Hopefully Glen and Marketa will get a nomination for their Once soundtrack too, if that is eligible...

Any Grammy experts amongst us?

borneoman · 11-21-2007, 12:13 AM

I'd say the Grammys have nothing to do with being popular, it's all about record companies and 'lobbying'. If you lobby, you're in. Some artists get nominated every year, like for instance Sheryl Crow, no matter how crappy her recent releases are.

Not sure about which category he would fit in (there are so so many)... rock? alternative? folk????? and there's like best song, best track, best performance... for instance 9 Crimes could be in as best performance by a duo...

He could even get it for best album cover, best album packaging!!!!

Fingers crossed

Cali · 11-21-2007, 12:13 AM

i think damien, glen and maketa are waaaay to good for the grammys. it's usually the brittneys, green days, justins and kanyes who win those awards

srahman24 · 11-21-2007, 02:18 AM

The (long) lists came out a while ago - Damien, Glen & Marketa were on a few of them.

Record of the Year
9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan (they're listed together)
Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Album of the Year
9 - Damien Rice
Once Soundtrack - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Song of the Year
9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan (written by Damien Rice)
Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Best New Artist
Fionn Regan
(Sidenote: Amy Winehouse is on the list too... but I don't see how she can be a "new" artist for 2008 if she's been around since 2003?)

Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals
9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan
Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Best Male Pop Performance
Lies - Glen Hansard

I have absolutely no clue if they'll make the shortlists, or if they'll have a shot at winning. But it sure would be something to watch them walk the red carpet

borneoman · 11-21-2007, 03:14 AM

^but what's that? it's not the final list, isn't it? who made that? or is it like the record companies suggestions?

and I was thinking that maybe Amy Winehouse counts if her old debut album was never fully released in the US... It was a complete flop first time around in the UK so I doubt it got a full US release, so Back to Black might be her 1st US proper release... not sure...

srahman24 · 11-21-2007, 03:29 AM

Nope, it's not the final list - it's a list of what the record companies/artists have submitted to be considered.

So, it's just what Damien's made himself eligible for.

The list was leaked back in October:

Record of the Year
http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...ecord_year.pdf

Album of the Year
http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...album_year.pdf

Song of the Year:
http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi.../song_year.pdf

Best New Artist
http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...new_artist.pdf

Pop Field
http://www.freefilehosting.org/public/46308/Pop.pdf

more here

borneoman · 11-21-2007, 03:48 AM

^Thanks for that, now I see, so that is the entry list!!

9 crimes was not in the list for videos... but Fionn Regan was!!!

and I also saw Athlete on the New Artist list... when they have like 3 albums out so far, and I even bought the 2nd here in the US in 05... so not sure how it works...

administrator · 11-21-2007, 11:28 AM

thanks for the srahman

i know awards are a bit silly, but i still get excited when U2 win a grammy (or seven) and i'll be excited for damien, lisa and glen too.

i think there should be a soundtrack category too, so presumably glen and marketa were put forward for that too? i think they would have a very good chance of being nominated for such a category.

This LA Times insider blog describes Once as the best soundtrack of the year, but notes that it wasn't nominated for the American Music Awards.

'9 Crimes' doesn't really feel like a Grammys kinda song... but we'll see...

srahman24 · 11-21-2007, 07:11 PM

Well, I read somewhere that Glen flew to L.A. to personally perform for the Oscar-song-choosing committee (or whatever their official title is

)... so they're most definitely in the running! Not to mention, practically every review of the movie has thrown the word Oscar out there at least once...

The AMA's are horrible. Even worse than the Grammy's, in my humble opinion. Though it would have been something to have Fergie perform - cut to commercial - then come back to Glen & Mar on stage.

viv · 11-21-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali

i think damien, glen and maketa are waaaay to good for the grammys. it's usually the brittneys, green days, justins and kanyes who win those awards

my thoughts exactly.

LaurenM · 11-22-2007, 02:19 PM

i just hope he gets nominated so I get to see him in a suit....

She'sAlwaysDressedInWhite · 11-22-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srahman24

Well, I read somewhere that Glen flew to L.A. to personally perform for the Oscar-song-choosing committee (or whatever their official title is

)... so they're most definitely in the running! Not to mention, practically every review of the movie has thrown the word Oscar out there at least once...

The AMA's are horrible. Even worse than the Grammy's, in my humble opinion. Though it would have been something to have Fergie perform - cut to commercial - then come back to Glen & Mar on stage.

yep indeed he did before the SS tour started....might Golden Globes too:0

mariaoran · 11-22-2007, 04:46 PM

^^ i can see glen showing up for the 'red carpet' ... but do you really think damo would show up!? ... i cannot imagine it... haha all dressed up and with his hair all done and all!...

oh he'd probably wear the patchwork shirt !!!

if he does show up he should bring Lisaaaaaaaaa!!!!

^Does the "choosing committee people" make them perform to see if they want to nominate them or to see if they want them to perform at the actual show????

... i just don't see the reason why they would have to see them perform to know that they're brilliant!!!!

... if they already have the movie and the soundtrack, which is why they would be nominating them ...mmm maybe they just wanted a free show he he

Rai · 11-22-2007, 04:56 PM

^Forget about Damien, imagine Vyv's red carpet outfit

She'sAlwaysDressedInWhite · 11-22-2007, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariaoran

^^ i can see glen showing up for the 'red carpet' ... but do you really think damo would show up!? ... i cannot imagine it... haha all dressed up and with his hair all done and all!...

oh he'd probably wear the patchwork shirt !!!

if he does show up he should bring Lisaaaaaaaaa!!!!

^Does the "choosing committee people" make them perform to see if they want to nominate them or to see if they want them to perform at the actual show????

... i just don't see the reason why they would have to see them perform to know that they're brilliant!!!!

... if they already have the movie and the soundtrack, which is why they would be nominating them ...mmm maybe they just wanted a free show he he

i think it will be weird to see glen on the red carpet..he is soooo not a red carpet guy...yeah he is in 'competition' with Eddie Vedder...

whatever will be i hope him and Mar will get a nomination...fingers crossed

srahman24 · 11-22-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariaoran

^Does the "choosing committee people" make them perform to see if they want to nominate them or to see if they want them to perform at the actual show????

... i just don't see the reason why they would have to see them perform to know that they're brilliant!!!!

... if they already have the movie and the soundtrack, which is why they would be nominating them ...mmm maybe they just wanted a free show he he

Well, everyone who's nominated for Best Song performs at the Oscars.

This year could be especially great if Glen and Mar are on the same bill as Sondre Lerche

(though I think he's a long shot)!

And of course Lisa should be there! She'd be nominated right along with him

It'll be just surreal to see any of them on the red carpet. Or even, if they skip that, in the audience as the cameras pan through the crowd...

mariaoran · 11-22-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srahman24

Well, everyone who's nominated for Best Song performs at the Oscars.

oh ok sooo they make them perform to see if they reeally want to nominate them ... got it!!

sorry didn't know they all performed... dont really watch the oscars :S:S will do this next year tho... if they're nominated of course!!!!!!!!!

sorry back to the grammys... would the award go to Damien tho since he's the writer or both ??? are the grammys awarded for how good the perfrormance is or the writing?

-excuse my ignorance on this!

srahman24 · 11-22-2007, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariaoran

are the grammys awarded for how good the perfrormance is or the writing?

Hmmm, sadly, the Grammy's aren't really indicative of good performers or good writing. Usually it's just about what's been popular that year, or given to someone dead/making a comeback (my 14 year old self is still bitter that all 5 of a certain boy band's nominations in 2001 went without a win, in favor of Steely Dan. Pfffft.).

And sure, they get it right sometimes, but usually when those albums were a big success/hit #1...

And there are some upsets... but the only one I can remember is the Oh Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack - which had lots of buzz, but very little radio play.

I think Glen and Marketa might have that buzz now, especially if they get nominated for an Oscar/Golden Glove too. Not sure what Damien's chances are... though I'd love to see him be nominated/win!

Wikipedia tells me:
Record of the Year goes to the performer & producers
Album of the Year goes to performer & producers
Song of the Year goes to writers of the song

mariaoran · 11-22-2007, 08:39 PM

^Gotcha!!

was just wonderig since they listed Damien and Lisa but Lisa is not the writer of the song so....

Thanks!!!

*crossing my fingers now!!*

borneoman · 12-06-2007, 05:28 PM

The Grammy nominations have just been announced, don't see Damien

but again I don't see all categories, just the Big Ones, I only see Amy Winehouse everywhere

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec...rtList,00.html

Cali · 12-06-2007, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Best Compilation Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media

Across The Universe
Various Artists
Dreamgirls
Various Artists
Hairspray
Various Artists
Love
(The Beatles)
Once
Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Best Song Written For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media

Falling Slowly (From Once)
Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova, songwriters (Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova)
Track from: Once
Guaranteed (From Into The Wild)
Eddie Vedder, songwriter (Eddie Vedder)
Track from: Into The Wild
Love You I Do (From Dreamgirls)
Siedah Garrett & Henry Krieger, songwriters (Jennifer Hudson)
Track from: Dreamgirls
The Song Of The Heart (From Happy Feet)
Prince Rogers Nelson, songwriter (Prince)
Track from: Happy Feet
You Know My Name (From Casino Royale)
David Arnold & Chris Cornell, songwriters (Chris Cornell)

Track from: Carry On

i'm happy for them, they surely deserve to win but probably the beyonce movie will

dawno · 12-06-2007, 06:08 PM

The full list can be found here:

http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/50th_Show/list.aspx

No Damo, but there are two nominations for Once:

Best Compilation Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media
(Award to the Artist(s) and/or Producer(s) of a majority of the tracks on the album, or to the individual(s) actively responsible for the concept and musical direction and for the selection of artists, songs and producers, as applicable.)

Across The Universe
Various Artists

Dreamgirls
Various Artists

Hairspray
Various Artists

Love
(The Beatles)
[Apple Records/Capitol Records]

Once
Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova

Best Song Written For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media
(A Songwriter(s) award. For a song (melody & lyrics) written specifically for a motion picture, television or other visual media, and released for the first time during the Eligibility Year. (Artist names appear in parentheses.) Singles or Tracks only.)

Falling Slowly (From Once)
Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova, songwriters (Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova)
Track from: Once

Guaranteed (From Into The Wild)
Eddie Vedder, songwriter (Eddie Vedder)
Track from: Into The Wild

Love You I Do (From Dreamgirls)
Siedah Garrett & Henry Krieger, songwriters (Jennifer Hudson)
Track from: Dreamgirls

The Song Of The Heart (From Happy Feet)
Prince Rogers Nelson, songwriter (Prince)
Track from: Happy Feet

You Know My Name (From Casino Royale)
David Arnold & Chris Cornell, songwriters (Chris Cornell)
Track from: Carry On

October Sky · 12-06-2007, 08:16 PM

That's really, really awesome for Once!!!! But honestly, why do the Grammys even try? Last year the show was pretty good- there was a decent amount of older and, um, better artist there. But this is obviously an "Oh, they're at the top of the charts, let's pick them" way of selecting people. Is it just me or are the less popular people almost always the better artist?

11-21-2007, 12:13 AM	#2
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	I'd say the Grammys have nothing to do with being popular, it's all about record companies and 'lobbying'. If you lobby, you're in. Some artists get nominated every year, like for instance Sheryl Crow, no matter how crappy her recent releases are. Not sure about which category he would fit in (there are so so many)... rock? alternative? folk????? and there's like best song, best track, best performance... for instance 9 Crimes could be in as best performance by a duo... He could even get it for best album cover, best album packaging!!!! Fingers crossed __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

11-21-2007, 12:13 AM	#3
Cali Vegetable Eskimo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A room of musical tunes Posts: 5,158	i think damien, glen and maketa are waaaay to good for the grammys. it's usually the brittneys, green days, justins and kanyes who win those awards __________________ Scrubs Ted and Kate Micucci Screw You (full song) __________________________________ note: my name is NOT short for California

11-21-2007, 03:14 AM	#5
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	^but what's that? it's not the final list, isn't it? who made that? or is it like the record companies suggestions? and I was thinking that maybe Amy Winehouse counts if her old debut album was never fully released in the US... It was a complete flop first time around in the UK so I doubt it got a full US release, so Back to Black might be her 1st US proper release... not sure... __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

11-21-2007, 03:48 AM	#7
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	^Thanks for that, now I see, so that is the entry list!! 9 crimes was not in the list for videos... but Fionn Regan was!!! and I also saw Athlete on the New Artist list... when they have like 3 albums out so far, and I even bought the 2nd here in the US in 05... so not sure how it works... __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I? Last edited by borneoman; 11-21-2007 at 03:52 AM.

11-21-2007, 11:28 AM	#8
administrator forum administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,480	thanks for the srahman i know awards are a bit silly, but i still get excited when U2 win a grammy (or seven) and i'll be excited for damien, lisa and glen too. i think there should be a soundtrack category too, so presumably glen and marketa were put forward for that too? i think they would have a very good chance of being nominated for such a category. This LA Times insider blog describes Once as the best soundtrack of the year, but notes that it wasn't nominated for the American Music Awards. '9 Crimes' doesn't really feel like a Grammys kinda song... but we'll see... __________________ Keep checking the news page for all the latest Damien Rice news. Last edited by administrator; 11-21-2007 at 11:31 AM.

11-20-2007, 11:55 PM	#1
administrator forum administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,480	anyone know anything about the grammys? Nominations for the Grammy awards are announced on December 6th. I'm just wondering how likely it is that Damien will get a nomination for 9? It wasn't eligible last year, so this is the first time it is eligible for nomination. What category / categories is Damien eligible for? He's much more popular now than when O was released, so hopefully he will get a nomination. It would be great for Irish music to have some more acts at the Grammys. Hopefully Glen and Marketa will get a nomination for their Once soundtrack too, if that is eligible... Any Grammy experts amongst us? __________________ Keep checking the news page for all the latest Damien Rice news.

11-21-2007, 02:18 AM	#4
srahman24 Dandy little dreamer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,244	The (long) lists came out a while ago - Damien, Glen & Marketa were on a few of them. Record of the Year 9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan (they're listed together) Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova Album of the Year 9 - Damien Rice Once Soundtrack - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova Song of the Year 9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan (written by Damien Rice) Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova Best New Artist Fionn Regan (Sidenote: Amy Winehouse is on the list too... but I don't see how she can be a "new" artist for 2008 if she's been around since 2003?) Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals 9 Crimes - Damien Rice & Lisa Hannigan Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova Best Male Pop Performance Lies - Glen Hansard I have absolutely no clue if they'll make the shortlists, or if they'll have a shot at winning. But it sure would be something to watch them walk the red carpet

11-21-2007, 03:29 AM	#6
srahman24 Dandy little dreamer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,244	Nope, it's not the final list - it's a list of what the record companies/artists have submitted to be considered. So, it's just what Damien's made himself eligible for. The list was leaked back in October: Record of the Year http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...ecord_year.pdf Album of the Year http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...album_year.pdf Song of the Year: http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi.../song_year.pdf Best New Artist http://www.freefilehosting.org/publi...new_artist.pdf Pop Field http://www.freefilehosting.org/public/46308/Pop.pdf more here

11-21-2007, 07:11 PM	#9
srahman24 Dandy little dreamer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,244	Well, I read somewhere that Glen flew to L.A. to personally perform for the Oscar-song-choosing committee (or whatever their official title is )... so they're most definitely in the running! Not to mention, practically every review of the movie has thrown the word Oscar out there at least once... The AMA's are horrible. Even worse than the Grammy's, in my humble opinion. Though it would have been something to have Fergie perform - cut to commercial - then come back to Glen & Mar on stage.

11-22-2007, 02:19 PM	#11
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	i just hope he gets nominated so I get to see him in a suit....

11-22-2007, 04:46 PM	#13
mariaoran The girl from Venezuela Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madrid Posts: 2,118	^^ i can see glen showing up for the 'red carpet' ... but do you really think damo would show up!? ... i cannot imagine it... haha all dressed up and with his hair all done and all!... oh he'd probably wear the patchwork shirt !!! if he does show up he should bring Lisaaaaaaaaa!!!! ^Does the "choosing committee people" make them perform to see if they want to nominate them or to see if they want them to perform at the actual show???? ... i just don't see the reason why they would have to see them perform to know that they're brilliant!!!! ... if they already have the movie and the soundtrack, which is why they would be nominating them ...mmm maybe they just wanted a free show he he __________________ "This place is a Gynocracy!" repetition creates pattern, repetition creates pattern, repetition creates pattern... Last edited by mariaoran; 11-22-2007 at 04:54 PM.

11-22-2007, 04:56 PM	#14
Rai Eskimontologist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Robo-Hungarian Empire Posts: 2,345	^Forget about Damien, imagine Vyv's red carpet outfit __________________ "There's, another example. See, here I'm now sitting by myself, uh, er, talking to myself. That's, that's chaos." "If you find you've got a dragon charging at you at thirty miles per hour snapping its teeth you can always drive it defensively through the covers"

11-22-2007, 08:39 PM	#19
mariaoran The girl from Venezuela Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madrid Posts: 2,118	^Gotcha!! was just wonderig since they listed Damien and Lisa but Lisa is not the writer of the song so.... Thanks!!! crossing my fingers now!! __________________ "This place is a Gynocracy!" repetition creates pattern, repetition creates pattern, repetition creates pattern...

12-06-2007, 05:28 PM	#20
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	The Grammy nominations have just been announced, don't see Damien but again I don't see all categories, just the Big Ones, I only see Amy Winehouse everywhere http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec...rtList,00.html __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

12-06-2007, 06:08 PM	#22
dawno just mildly free Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: metro nyc Posts: 769	The full list can be found here: http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/50th_Show/list.aspx No Damo, but there are two nominations for Once: Best Compilation Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media (Award to the Artist(s) and/or Producer(s) of a majority of the tracks on the album, or to the individual(s) actively responsible for the concept and musical direction and for the selection of artists, songs and producers, as applicable.) Across The Universe Various Artists Dreamgirls Various Artists Hairspray Various Artists Love (The Beatles) [Apple Records/Capitol Records] Once Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova Best Song Written For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media (A Songwriter(s) award. For a song (melody & lyrics) written specifically for a motion picture, television or other visual media, and released for the first time during the Eligibility Year. (Artist names appear in parentheses.) Singles or Tracks only.) Falling Slowly (From Once) Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova, songwriters (Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova) Track from: Once Guaranteed (From Into The Wild) Eddie Vedder, songwriter (Eddie Vedder) Track from: Into The Wild Love You I Do (From Dreamgirls) Siedah Garrett & Henry Krieger, songwriters (Jennifer Hudson) Track from: Dreamgirls The Song Of The Heart (From Happy Feet) Prince Rogers Nelson, songwriter (Prince) Track from: Happy Feet You Know My Name (From Casino Royale) David Arnold & Chris Cornell, songwriters (Chris Cornell) Track from: Carry On

12-06-2007, 08:16 PM	#23
October Sky Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 100	That's really, really awesome for Once!!!! But honestly, why do the Grammys even try? Last year the show was pretty good- there was a decent amount of older and, um, better artist there. But this is obviously an "Oh, they're at the top of the charts, let's pick them" way of selecting people. Is it just me or are the less popular people almost always the better artist?