the Fool appreciation thread

Cali · 01-31-2009, 10:59 PM

because it's so good it deserves all its many threads

i just love this song too much so i was ecstatic when i read that he had played it in mexico. hopefully he'll tour again with vyv and the guys so he'll add the full-band version

i wonder how many versions of this song are out there. these are the only ones i have in my computer:

2002-01-31 Vicar St., Dublin
2003-11-21 Cane's - Mission Beach (San Diego), CA
2004-02-24 Le Grand Mix,Tourcoing, France
2004-03-12 Saschall Theater - Firenze (Florence), Italy
2007-03-05 Lille, France

are there any more?

Joyful · 01-31-2009, 11:51 PM

Can't answer the question as to how many times he has played it, but...I agree it's a great song. My second favorite of his. Insane is first. Sand is probably third, but it changes.

borneoman · 02-01-2009, 08:33 AM

^More or less same here, prob in my top 3 together with Insane & I Remember. I loooooooove this song so much, I've heard it live once last summer in Reykjavik, he opened the gig with Fool and almost died...

wish we had a studio version or a high quality live version but it's a song that I imagine would be difficult to make a studio version of it, not sure if it would translate well...

My fav live version is this one from Paris Olympia during the 9 tour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSTsvSvTk2I

I also have another version that I loooooove as mp3, but no clue where it's from...it's a version someone posted here once in which first he does a bit of Cohen's Famous Blue Raincoat and then goes into Fool.

borneoman · 02-01-2009, 09:07 AM

Cali, did a search on my compu, and found a few more versions of Fool in addition to yours:

2001-11-06 Galway
2002-12-09 Olympia Dublin
2003-03-24 Joe's Pub (the b-sides gig)
2007-03-19 Paris
2007-07-04 Olympia Paris (youtube)

Darvish · 02-01-2009, 10:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azoXF...e=channel_page

here's an obscure one he did in 06 while opening for Fiona Apple

Spamlet · 02-01-2009, 11:53 PM

Born,

I think you meant to link to the full length(albeit misnamed) performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSMc0...eature=related

SisterMidnight · 02-02-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borneoman

Cali, did a search on my compu, and found a few more versions of Fool in addition to yours:

2001-11-06 Galway
2002-12-09 Olympia Dublin
2003-03-24 Joe's Pub (the b-sides gig)
2007-03-19 Paris
2007-07-04 Olympia Paris (youtube)

oh my lord, how many versions of fool do we need? :P

i'm not mad about this song, it sounds too much like ne me quitte pas by jacques brel. i mean, damien's upfront about it being inspired by his song but it's too close to the original for me...

*ducks to avoid beercan thrown by cali*

borneoman · 02-02-2009, 06:40 AM

do you reckon that he has not released it because it is indeed (too) similar to the Jacques Brel song?? I've always wondered...

Spamlet · 02-05-2009, 11:19 AM

By that logic he'd never be able to release "Baby Sister" since it's a direct musical lift of "Famous Blue Raincoat"...

cille · 02-05-2009, 01:19 PM

^well he hasn't done that either, has he..?

borneoman · 02-05-2009, 01:30 PM

but you really see a similarity btwn Baby Sister and Famous Blue Raincoat????? I don't see it really

but once I heard a Cohen song that was identical to It Didn't Take You Long... cant remember which one now

cille · 02-05-2009, 01:33 PM

The chord progression and the melody are much alike...

Joyful · 02-05-2009, 05:16 PM

I don't see the Baby Sister/ Famous Blue Raincoat connection either. Will have to listen again.

cille · 02-05-2009, 06:11 PM

It's not a copy exactly, and I do think Baby Sister is a great song in it's own right, but the inspiration seems to be very close!

Just like Insane and Creep.

Gatsby · 02-05-2009, 06:25 PM

how many times have we discussed this now?

Closing_Doors · 02-05-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cille

Just like Insane and Creep.

Ok now you're just making stuff up!

cille · 02-05-2009, 09:01 PM

Did Simon just change his name AGAAAIIIN???

yeah it's probably like the 1353653th time. And don't we just luv it!

Cali · 02-05-2009, 09:09 PM

that's the upside of being completely tone-deaf

i miss all those similarities, except with fool and ne me quitte pas

marti, would you mind sharing paris and galway? i'm pretty sure i have joe's pub and olympia, just not in my computer

borneoman · 02-08-2009, 10:14 PM

Ok here is Paris-Olympia 04 July 07, prob the best Fool

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8YQV7EM

the other Paris (19 March 07) is not the best quality in the sense that is kinda low, y'all judge:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4TWKVD73

And then Galways is not the best quality either but might be interesting cos I think it's the oldest (2001) one, there is a like a background static...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G3NHH5IY

RonjaGirl · 02-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cille

It's not a copy exactly, and I do think Baby Sister is a great song in it's own right, but the inspiration seems to be very close!

Just like Insane and Creep.

...or like 'Groovin' and 'My Baby Just Cares For Me' by Nina Simone...does anyone sea the similarity in that one?

Ewwa · 02-09-2009, 09:58 AM

in march (?) 2007 in london he ended "cheers darling" playing a bit of fool, that was brilliant! i do have a decent recording of this one somewhere, i´ll upload it if i can find it

verenita · 11-13-2009, 01:49 AM

i haven´t listened to this song in a long time... but i just did it, a few minutes ago and wow! brilliant!

i´ll quote cali (from another thread):

Quote:

anyway, this thing is orgasmic

orangejasmine · 11-13-2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cille

The chord progression and the melody are much alike...

Oh, I wouldn't be able to say anything about Baby Sister and Famous Blue Raincoat from a music theoretical point of view, but I do hear the similarities, yeah.

By the way, Baby Sister is probably one of my favourites from Damien.

Tangent.

Does anyone else hear something familiar in I Remember?

If one uses the studio version as a reference, it's the guitar part that goes into "come all ye lost, dive into moss". This sounds so familiar to me but I cannot put my finger on it!

verenita · 06-26-2010, 02:22 PM

here´s an excellent sound quality and sort of acustic version i´ve just found:

i like the background: a couple "dancing tango" (it is what it seems, at least)

ElephantMan · 06-26-2010, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verenita

here´s an excellent sound quality and sort of acustic version i´ve just found:

i like the background: a couple "dancing tango" (it is what it seems, at least)

I never even noticed that the beginning of that version is the end of Famous blue raincoat...the one (and only) version of FBR that everyone has im sure....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvCe0tXwIQ

Spamlet · 06-26-2010, 10:59 PM

I hate the background cheezy karaoke image but need to thank you. This is far and away the best version of "Fool" I've ever heard and I didn't know it existed til now.

verenita · 06-27-2010, 06:54 AM

i´m glad and you´re welcome

the background is cheesy indeed, but i like the idea of related, in a senseless way of course

, fool to tango, since i´m argentinian and specifically from buenos aires: the city of tango, lol.

borneoman · 06-27-2010, 09:05 AM

yes, that is the best sound quality version of Fool, the mp3 has been floating around for a while,
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4U92YHE

^^^but it's not from that gig in Philly in which he played Famous Blue Rainocat in full, he didn't do Fool at that gig, after FBR he did The Blower's Daughter...

01-31-2009, 10:59 PM	#1
Cali Vegetable Eskimo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A room of musical tunes Posts: 5,158	the Fool appreciation thread because it's so good it deserves all its many threads i just love this song too much so i was ecstatic when i read that he had played it in mexico. hopefully he'll tour again with vyv and the guys so he'll add the full-band version i wonder how many versions of this song are out there. these are the only ones i have in my computer: 2002-01-31 Vicar St., Dublin 2003-11-21 Cane's - Mission Beach (San Diego), CA 2004-02-24 Le Grand Mix,Tourcoing, France 2004-03-12 Saschall Theater - Firenze (Florence), Italy 2007-03-05 Lille, France are there any more? __________________ Scrubs Ted and Kate Micucci Screw You (full song) __________________________________ note: my name is NOT short for California

02-01-2009, 08:33 AM	#3
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	^More or less same here, prob in my top 3 together with Insane & I Remember. I loooooooove this song so much, I've heard it live once last summer in Reykjavik, he opened the gig with Fool and almost died... wish we had a studio version or a high quality live version but it's a song that I imagine would be difficult to make a studio version of it, not sure if it would translate well... My fav live version is this one from Paris Olympia during the 9 tour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSTsvSvTk2I I also have another version that I loooooove as mp3, but no clue where it's from...it's a version someone posted here once in which first he does a bit of Cohen's Famous Blue Raincoat and then goes into Fool. __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

02-01-2009, 09:07 AM	#4
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	Cali, did a search on my compu, and found a few more versions of Fool in addition to yours: 2001-11-06 Galway 2002-12-09 Olympia Dublin 2003-03-24 Joe's Pub (the b-sides gig) 2007-03-19 Paris 2007-07-04 Olympia Paris (youtube) __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

02-01-2009, 10:25 PM	#5
Darvish Eskimo Friend Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 76	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azoXF...e=channel_page here's an obscure one he did in 06 while opening for Fiona Apple __________________ As the large cloud of toxic gas engulfs us, let's all dream of going on a holiday.

02-01-2009, 11:53 PM	#6
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	Born, I think you meant to link to the full length(albeit misnamed) performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSMc0...eature=related __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs

01-31-2009, 11:51 PM	#2
Joyful Eskimama Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: United States Posts: 1,276	Can't answer the question as to how many times he has played it, but...I agree it's a great song. My second favorite of his. Insane is first. Sand is probably third, but it changes.

02-02-2009, 06:40 AM	#8
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	do you reckon that he has not released it because it is indeed (too) similar to the Jacques Brel song?? I've always wondered... __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

02-05-2009, 11:19 AM	#9
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	By that logic he'd never be able to release "Baby Sister" since it's a direct musical lift of "Famous Blue Raincoat"... __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs

02-05-2009, 01:19 PM	#10
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	^well he hasn't done that either, has he..? __________________ Yeah Last edited by cille; 02-05-2009 at 01:22 PM.

02-05-2009, 01:30 PM	#11
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	but you really see a similarity btwn Baby Sister and Famous Blue Raincoat????? I don't see it really but once I heard a Cohen song that was identical to It Didn't Take You Long... cant remember which one now __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

02-05-2009, 01:33 PM	#12
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	The chord progression and the melody are much alike... __________________ Yeah

02-05-2009, 05:16 PM	#13
Joyful Eskimama Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: United States Posts: 1,276	I don't see the Baby Sister/ Famous Blue Raincoat connection either. Will have to listen again.

02-05-2009, 06:11 PM	#14
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	It's not a copy exactly, and I do think Baby Sister is a great song in it's own right, but the inspiration seems to be very close! Just like Insane and Creep. __________________ Yeah

02-05-2009, 06:25 PM	#15
Gatsby Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,809	how many times have we discussed this now? __________________ "Tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms further…And on fine morning - So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past." https://www.twitch.tv/simonjmusic

02-05-2009, 09:01 PM	#17
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	Did Simon just change his name AGAAAIIIN??? yeah it's probably like the 1353653th time. And don't we just luv it! __________________ Yeah

02-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#18
Cali Vegetable Eskimo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A room of musical tunes Posts: 5,158	that's the upside of being completely tone-deaf i miss all those similarities, except with fool and ne me quitte pas marti, would you mind sharing paris and galway? i'm pretty sure i have joe's pub and olympia, just not in my computer __________________ Scrubs Ted and Kate Micucci Screw You (full song) __________________________________ note: my name is NOT short for California

02-08-2009, 10:14 PM	#19
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	Ok here is Paris-Olympia 04 July 07, prob the best Fool http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8YQV7EM the other Paris (19 March 07) is not the best quality in the sense that is kinda low, y'all judge: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4TWKVD73 And then Galways is not the best quality either but might be interesting cos I think it's the oldest (2001) one, there is a like a background static... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G3NHH5IY __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

02-09-2009, 09:58 AM	#21
Ewwa Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Home sweet home Posts: 115	in march (?) 2007 in london he ended "cheers darling" playing a bit of fool, that was brilliant! i do have a decent recording of this one somewhere, i´ll upload it if i can find it

06-26-2010, 02:22 PM	#24
verenita ... trusty and true ... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 6,387	here´s an excellent sound quality and sort of acustic version i´ve just found: i like the background: a couple "dancing tango" (it is what it seems, at least) __________________ ["Read me your favourite line": "No podía sucederme nada peor –pensaba aquel amigo–: tengo el alma delicada."] Last edited by verenita; 06-26-2010 at 02:24 PM.

06-26-2010, 10:59 PM	#26
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	I hate the background cheezy karaoke image but need to thank you. This is far and away the best version of "Fool" I've ever heard and I didn't know it existed til now. __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs

06-27-2010, 06:54 AM	#27
verenita ... trusty and true ... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 6,387	i´m glad and you´re welcome the background is cheesy indeed, but i like the idea of related, in a senseless way of course , fool to tango, since i´m argentinian and specifically from buenos aires: the city of tango, lol. __________________ ["Read me your favourite line": "No podía sucederme nada peor –pensaba aquel amigo–: tengo el alma delicada."]

06-27-2010, 09:05 AM	#28
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	yes, that is the best sound quality version of Fool, the mp3 has been floating around for a while, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4U92YHE ^^^but it's not from that gig in Philly in which he played Famous Blue Rainocat in full, he didn't do Fool at that gig, after FBR he did The Blower's Daughter... __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?