eskimo friends

mizbitsy · 03-14-2004, 08:48 AM

Hi all! As we all have different interpretations of songs I just wondered what some of your own were of eskimo friends, as I could come up with many dufferent angles on it, and was interested to know what others thought!

S x

Enoch · 03-14-2004, 11:40 AM

For me, the song is about soulsearching.

Welcome Miz [img]smileys/smiley31.gif[/img]

Bumpman · 03-14-2004, 06:44 PM

i guess the problem there would be that many of us eskimo's will have heard damien in different concerts or bootlegs explaining the songs in detail...

the one's he usually talks about are amie, older chests, eskimo, me my yoke & i, cheers darlin', i remember, the professor & volcano. There's an odd time when he explains other one's... he never talks about the blower's daughter though... it's a fu*ked up song when you find out what it's really about. [img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

#Ian# · 03-14-2004, 09:33 PM

The professor really? Never heard that one.

He's also explained cold water.

Someone should do a whats this song about faq.

Bumpman · 03-14-2004, 10:57 PM

the professor is about being male and being confused about your body parts...

yeah, he explained cold water & delicate too.

mizbitsy · 03-15-2004, 06:46 PM

Hi,

Ive never been to see him so I cant comment, but can u tell me what what he said re: eskimo and also I have to know what the blowers daughter is about, as it is an odd song?

S x

Wheels · 03-15-2004, 07:14 PM

Okay this is my memory of how it happened, correct the bits I get wrong gang.

Eskimo is kind of the first 'Damien Rice' song... he was still in Juniper and was trying to write a song... he couldn't... eventually he gave up and threw the guitar across the room... then realised it was his friends guitar and ran and picked it up.

He sat down and just strummed it to see if it was okay and that was the first chord of Eskimo... right there and then the song just spilled out. The pauses at the start of the song are him waiting for the words to come into his head...

The 'Eskimo Friend' reference was because there was a picture of his friend on the ground. She was Finnish and "looked kind of like an eskimo"... she had just gone back home to Finland.

Anyway, that song was when he realised that he couldn't force the music, but had to just let it fall out when it wanted to come...

neil_eats · 03-15-2004, 08:01 PM

when i saw him live at bristol he explained cannonball in a dead funny way (im gonna use quotation but this is a rough idea of what he exactly said, a word or two out no doubt) 'you see cannonball is all about, you know when you walk into a field full of cows and you walk up to them and they walk away, then you run towards then and they start to run then you chase them and they run like f**k. but if you go intothe field and lie down all the cows will come to youand sniff around you. and thats what cannonball is about.'

Angela · 03-15-2004, 08:36 PM

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andy1881 · 03-15-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheels

Okay this is my memory of how it happened, correct the bits I get wrong gang.

Yup, I think that explanation is on the VH-1 interviews

mattbeswick · 03-16-2004, 12:18 AM

Okay, here are the two that I can remember:

(Rough quotations used)

Volcano - it's about being at a point in time when you're really really close to someone. You sit there, and you just feel that it's the right time to take things further, and you go to kiss them... just at that moment, they move away and you're left kneeling infront of them with your arms around their legs thinking "f**k". But then there's another time when they go to kiss you, and for some reason you move away, and they're left kneeling there on the floor infront of you.

Cold Water - he'd had an arguement with his mum the night he wrote it, and he woke up after having adream he was dying of brain cancer. When he sat up in bed, clutching his head he just wanted to speak to his mum. He also mentioned something about only turning to god when "something really f**king bad happens".

Baby Sister - there were 2 kids who lived with their dad after their mum moved away when they were young (died maybe). He used to go out to the pub and get drunk, then come back and beat one of them. Secretly they each hoped it would be the other person, but didn't want to admit even to themselves.

Blowers Daughter - apparently it was written about Lisa, but I'm not sure of the exact story - I remember him saying somewhere that everyone says it's a beautiful song but the amount of hurt that happened before he wrote it was massive.

Wheels · 03-16-2004, 10:19 AM

I don't think Blowers Daughter is about Lisa. It's about the daughter of his flute or claronet teacher... He didn't meet Lisa until much later...

mattbeswick · 03-16-2004, 11:31 AM

Wheels - now I think about it, it could have been 'delicate'... not sure though - can't remember. ~Ponders~

tj · 03-16-2004, 12:31 PM

Wheels, what exactly is the Blower's Daughter about?

Anyone know the scenario (is that spelt wrong?) that Sand was written around?

Wheels · 03-16-2004, 01:17 PM

Blowers Daughter is just about how he obsessed over the daughter of his flute teacher... No major storyline that I remember.

Unabashed · 03-16-2004, 01:38 PM

You'll find it is about lisa.

As is Cannonball and The Blower's Daughter Pt 2.

I'd explain but its like delving into someones personal life and thats not cool

Martini · 03-16-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unabashed

You'll find it is about lisa.

As is Cannonball and The Blower's Daughter Pt 2.

who saidthose were about lisa? [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]this is how rumors start..

Unabashed · 03-16-2004, 10:47 PM

Damien said at a gig that Cannonball was about lisa, she went red and nearly walked off stage. Tomo hit his head on the drums.

The Blower's daughter pt 2...

Seems to me everyone here knows that Damo is going out with some new girl, but she doesn't compare to lisa....Lets look at the evidence...

" You can't paint and elephant as good as she"check O's album inlay for the art work. Cred goes to Damo and lisa.

" And she may rise if I sing her down..."

Also in the distortion he sings, " I can do it on my own I can live alone" - fact is Damo IS turnin up the volume on alot of songs and droning her out. It seems shes a very big part of his success story. I don't know, maybe hes feelin a bit like, hey u know I can do it without you or whatever.

He sung at vicar street..." You can both keep me pinned, but its easier totease, and I know you can make me happy, quite as good as me, but I know thats a lie" He's got one girl he's going out with and another on his mind. Its just an assumption, butit all points to lisa.

The fact thats itsalso called The BlowersDaughter part 2 is a bit of a give away to part one.

IF you check the juniper back catalogue you can just about trace everything. He tells stories about all his songs BAR the blowers daughter. OK, well if it was his flute teachers daughter, then whyoh why doesn't it get discussed on stage with lisa?

On the KCWR sessions the DJ actually gets it out ofdamo that the version you hear him singing on O was actually the one recordedin front of the blower's daughter, to gain that 'spine tingly' effect he felt the song was missin'. He then continues to say ' I dunno how you got that out of me '.

OK yeh he could of gotten some old flute teachers daughter, but thats bollocks, its lisa for god sake the mans obsessed with the girl.

Oh and in cannonball and sand ' wake up young girl' , just feels like when these were written he was embracing a girl he felt was younger than him, something he didn't want to screw up. Which he did.

Angela · 03-16-2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unabashed

On the KCWR sessions the DJ actually gets it out of*damo that the version you hear him singing on O was actually the one recorded*in front of the blower's daughter, to gain that 'spine tingly' effect he felt the song was missin'. He then continues to say ' I dunno how you got that out of me '.

I don't remember that. Which of the session was that? [img]smileys/smiley23.gif[/img]

Hannah · 03-16-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unabashed

You can't paint and elephant as good as she"check O's album inlay for the art work. Cred goes to Damo and lisa

but just because that elephant was painted by lisa AND damien doesn't mean that that's the same one the girl painted for him. could have been a replica. i doubt he would put the same elephant drawn by the girl, on the album and much less t-shirts and things as that seems somewhat personal.

i don't think they're about lisa. but hell what do i know!! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

tj · 03-17-2004, 01:00 AM

In the Cannonall DVD Damo says that he had to get the "blowers daughter" and play the song in front of her to give him the "shrivels". As he says these words it shows him standing singing the Blower's Daughter infront of Lisa in a split screen. I thought that was a bit weird. Edited by: tj_rev

mattbeswick · 03-17-2004, 12:31 PM

Groovin' - written when he was 16 about someone he used to follow to school... haven't managed to work out the full story - only heard him talk about this song when he's in one of his rambling moods :P

Bumpman · 03-17-2004, 05:31 PM

Yeah, Groovin' was the first song he wrote... but i remember him saying once that he hadnt really felt that deeply about anyone at that time... so he just invented someone to write a song about [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] typical of him too.

The whole story behind The Blower's Daughter as far as i know happened when he was 18-19, and yeah it's about his flute teacher's daughter... but she was an odd bit younger then him, he was an odd bit older then her and he was f*cking obsessed with her, and although he never acted on it, he still felt quite a bit guilty... so for obvious reasons he dosent like talking about it, i guess mostly because some narrow minded people would start to think he was a bit dodgy for fancying someone who was too young.

I suppose if he was going out with lisa at some point he might have changed the lyrics to reflect their relationship... but it's VERY UNLIKE him to change the lyrics of a song once he already has a definite version.
There is a lot of emotion in the song though so obviously he was pretty obsessed... i may be missing some minor details on this story, but only because it's only been told once or possibly even twice. The song wasn't written with Lisa in mind though... In fact this thread is the first i've ever heard of it.Edited by: Bumpman

#Ian# · 03-17-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumpman

i guess mostly because some narrow minded people would start to think he was a bit dodgy for fancying someone who was too young.

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. Another one he rarely tells is Prague, anyone know???

In the bellX1 version of volcano the lyric goes "She's still too young to bleed". Same girly perhaps.

All I've heard him say about Prague is some thing like "this is a song about what jealousy can d oto you."

Bumpman · 03-17-2004, 08:07 PM

Yeah, but i think that lyric was a contribution by Paul Noonan, because on the original demo on the volcano single, Damien sings "still too young to treat"... i don't think he ever liked that lyric, it is a bit provocative, isn't it? i guess that a perk of splitting from juniper and starting the Damien Rice Band is that he has most of the creative control.

I think i'm glad for that in a way.

Si_B · 03-17-2004, 08:24 PM

Have I missed something here? Is there a link between Damo and Bell x1?

Wheels · 03-17-2004, 08:25 PM

Yes. Bell x1 is the new name for Juniper, which is the band Damien started with.

Si_B · 03-17-2004, 08:31 PM

Bloody hell, I had no idea. I saw Bell x1 supporting Aqualung on Saturday and thought they were ace! Now I think they are twice as good!

Wheels · 03-17-2004, 08:33 PM

Yeah they're good alright.

Si_B · 03-17-2004, 08:36 PM

Wot did Damien do in the band? Was he lead vocals in them days?

03-14-2004, 11:40 AM	#2
Enoch Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,698	For me, the song is about soulsearching. Welcome Miz [img]smileys/smiley31.gif[/img] __________________ Hold me down, hoping that you can explain, little arithmetics, got me down ..

03-14-2004, 09:33 PM	#4
#Ian# Destroyer of worlds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,783	The professor really? Never heard that one. He's also explained cold water. Someone should do a whats this song about faq. __________________ One day we will die and our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see

03-16-2004, 12:31 PM	#14
tj Phono Vox Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 828	Wheels, what exactly is the Blower's Daughter about? Anyone know the scenario (is that spelt wrong?) that Sand was written around? __________________ a goldfish only has a three second memory..that means if it takes a goldfish three seconds to swim around a bowl, everything is new...each time two goldfish meet it's like it's the first time..

03-17-2004, 01:00 AM	#21
tj Phono Vox Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 828	In the Cannonall DVD Damo says that he had to get the "blowers daughter" and play the song in front of her to give him the "shrivels". As he says these words it shows him standing singing the Blower's Daughter infront of Lisa in a split screen. I thought that was a bit weird. Edited by: tj_rev __________________ a goldfish only has a three second memory..that means if it takes a goldfish three seconds to swim around a bowl, everything is new...each time two goldfish meet it's like it's the first time..

03-17-2004, 05:31 PM	#23
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	Yeah, Groovin' was the first song he wrote... but i remember him saying once that he hadnt really felt that deeply about anyone at that time... so he just invented someone to write a song about [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] typical of him too. The whole story behind The Blower's Daughter as far as i know happened when he was 18-19, and yeah it's about his flute teacher's daughter... but she was an odd bit younger then him, he was an odd bit older then her and he was f*cking obsessed with her, and although he never acted on it, he still felt quite a bit guilty... so for obvious reasons he dosent like talking about it, i guess mostly because some narrow minded people would start to think he was a bit dodgy for fancying someone who was too young. I suppose if he was going out with lisa at some point he might have changed the lyrics to reflect their relationship... but it's VERY UNLIKE him to change the lyrics of a song once he already has a definite version. There is a lot of emotion in the song though so obviously he was pretty obsessed... i may be missing some minor details on this story, but only because it's only been told once or possibly even twice. The song wasn't written with Lisa in mind though... In fact this thread is the first i've ever heard of it.Edited by: Bumpman __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

03-14-2004, 08:48 AM	#1
mizbitsy Eskimo Baby Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Hi all! As we all have different interpretations of songs I just wondered what some of your own were of eskimo friends, as I could come up with many dufferent angles on it, and was interested to know what others thought! S x

03-14-2004, 06:44 PM	#3
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	i guess the problem there would be that many of us eskimo's will have heard damien in different concerts or bootlegs explaining the songs in detail... the one's he usually talks about are amie, older chests, eskimo, me my yoke & i, cheers darlin', i remember, the professor & volcano. There's an odd time when he explains other one's... he never talks about the blower's daughter though... it's a fu*ked up song when you find out what it's really about. [img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

03-14-2004, 10:57 PM	#5
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	the professor is about being male and being confused about your body parts... yeah, he explained cold water & delicate too.

03-15-2004, 06:46 PM	#6
mizbitsy Eskimo Baby Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Hi, Ive never been to see him so I cant comment, but can u tell me what what he said re: eskimo and also I have to know what the blowers daughter is about, as it is an odd song? S x

03-15-2004, 07:14 PM	#7
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Okay this is my memory of how it happened, correct the bits I get wrong gang. Eskimo is kind of the first 'Damien Rice' song... he was still in Juniper and was trying to write a song... he couldn't... eventually he gave up and threw the guitar across the room... then realised it was his friends guitar and ran and picked it up. He sat down and just strummed it to see if it was okay and that was the first chord of Eskimo... right there and then the song just spilled out. The pauses at the start of the song are him waiting for the words to come into his head... The 'Eskimo Friend' reference was because there was a picture of his friend on the ground. She was Finnish and "looked kind of like an eskimo"... she had just gone back home to Finland. Anyway, that song was when he realised that he couldn't force the music, but had to just let it fall out when it wanted to come...

03-15-2004, 08:01 PM	#8
neil_eats Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 500	when i saw him live at bristol he explained cannonball in a dead funny way (im gonna use quotation but this is a rough idea of what he exactly said, a word or two out no doubt) 'you see cannonball is all about, you know when you walk into a field full of cows and you walk up to them and they walk away, then you run towards then and they start to run then you chase them and they run like f**k. but if you go intothe field and lie down all the cows will come to youand sniff around you. and thats what cannonball is about.'

03-15-2004, 08:36 PM	#9
Angela Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cloud #9 Posts: 5,029	[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

03-16-2004, 12:18 AM	#11
mattbeswick Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 113	Okay, here are the two that I can remember: (Rough quotations used) Volcano - it's about being at a point in time when you're really really close to someone. You sit there, and you just feel that it's the right time to take things further, and you go to kiss them... just at that moment, they move away and you're left kneeling infront of them with your arms around their legs thinking "fk". But then there's another time when they go to kiss you, and for some reason you move away, and they're left kneeling there on the floor infront of you. Cold Water - he'd had an arguement with his mum the night he wrote it, and he woke up after having adream he was dying of brain cancer. When he sat up in bed, clutching his head he just wanted to speak to his mum. He also mentioned something about only turning to god when "something really fking bad happens". Baby Sister - there were 2 kids who lived with their dad after their mum moved away when they were young (died maybe). He used to go out to the pub and get drunk, then come back and beat one of them. Secretly they each hoped it would be the other person, but didn't want to admit even to themselves. Blowers Daughter - apparently it was written about Lisa, but I'm not sure of the exact story - I remember him saying somewhere that everyone says it's a beautiful song but the amount of hurt that happened before he wrote it was massive.

03-16-2004, 10:19 AM	#12
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	I don't think Blowers Daughter is about Lisa. It's about the daughter of his flute or claronet teacher... He didn't meet Lisa until much later...

03-16-2004, 11:31 AM	#13
mattbeswick Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 113	Wheels - now I think about it, it could have been 'delicate'... not sure though - can't remember. ~Ponders~

03-16-2004, 01:17 PM	#15
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Blowers Daughter is just about how he obsessed over the daughter of his flute teacher... No major storyline that I remember.

03-16-2004, 01:38 PM	#16
Unabashed Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 28	You'll find it is about lisa. As is Cannonball and The Blower's Daughter Pt 2. I'd explain but its like delving into someones personal life and thats not cool

03-16-2004, 10:47 PM	#18
Unabashed Eskimo Baby Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 28	Damien said at a gig that Cannonball was about lisa, she went red and nearly walked off stage. Tomo hit his head on the drums. The Blower's daughter pt 2... Seems to me everyone here knows that Damo is going out with some new girl, but she doesn't compare to lisa....Lets look at the evidence... " You can't paint and elephant as good as she"check O's album inlay for the art work. Cred goes to Damo and lisa. " And she may rise if I sing her down..." Also in the distortion he sings, " I can do it on my own I can live alone" - fact is Damo IS turnin up the volume on alot of songs and droning her out. It seems shes a very big part of his success story. I don't know, maybe hes feelin a bit like, hey u know I can do it without you or whatever. He sung at vicar street..." You can both keep me pinned, but its easier totease, and I know you can make me happy, quite as good as me, but I know thats a lie" He's got one girl he's going out with and another on his mind. Its just an assumption, butit all points to lisa. The fact thats itsalso called The BlowersDaughter part 2 is a bit of a give away to part one. IF you check the juniper back catalogue you can just about trace everything. He tells stories about all his songs BAR the blowers daughter. OK, well if it was his flute teachers daughter, then whyoh why doesn't it get discussed on stage with lisa? On the KCWR sessions the DJ actually gets it out ofdamo that the version you hear him singing on O was actually the one recordedin front of the blower's daughter, to gain that 'spine tingly' effect he felt the song was missin'. He then continues to say ' I dunno how you got that out of me '. OK yeh he could of gotten some old flute teachers daughter, but thats bollocks, its lisa for god sake the mans obsessed with the girl. Oh and in cannonball and sand ' wake up young girl' , just feels like when these were written he was embracing a girl he felt was younger than him, something he didn't want to screw up. Which he did.

03-17-2004, 12:31 PM	#22
mattbeswick Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 113	Groovin' - written when he was 16 about someone he used to follow to school... haven't managed to work out the full story - only heard him talk about this song when he's in one of his rambling moods :P

03-17-2004, 08:07 PM	#25
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	Yeah, but i think that lyric was a contribution by Paul Noonan, because on the original demo on the volcano single, Damien sings "still too young to treat"... i don't think he ever liked that lyric, it is a bit provocative, isn't it? i guess that a perk of splitting from juniper and starting the Damien Rice Band is that he has most of the creative control. I think i'm glad for that in a way. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

03-17-2004, 08:24 PM	#26
Si_B Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16	Have I missed something here? Is there a link between Damo and Bell x1? __________________ Read me the story of O...

03-17-2004, 08:25 PM	#27
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Yes. Bell x1 is the new name for Juniper, which is the band Damien started with.

03-17-2004, 08:31 PM	#28
Si_B Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16	Bloody hell, I had no idea. I saw Bell x1 supporting Aqualung on Saturday and thought they were ace! Now I think they are twice as good! __________________ Read me the story of O...

03-17-2004, 08:33 PM	#29
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Yeah they're good alright.

03-17-2004, 08:36 PM	#30
Si_B Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16	Wot did Damien do in the band? Was he lead vocals in them days? __________________ Read me the story of O...