Damien Rice v. Ray LaMontagne - Page 2

Mr Benn. · 01-16-2007, 07:15 PM

I would never have clumped the two together.
I love both of them but for very different reasons. The only two similarity's i can see between the style of Damien and Ray is that they are indeed both solo artists with an acoustic guitar (a rare breed I hear..) and they both as almost brutally honest in some of there songs but Damien's honesty about well... "paper mache" is different from Ray's honesty of "Big Bonned-Woman"

Both use there music to tell a story. Damien usually of heart break and Ray, in his earlier stuff atleast of his hard life. Ray to me although still intense at times seems to me to have a more lighthearted side to him than Damien.

GoodCatGoneBad · 01-16-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by julia

I would really love to hear this!!!

New - Damien Sings With Ray Lamontagne - 14 January 2007
At last night's recording of Taratata on French TV, Damien and Ray Lamontagne performed a cover of 'To Love Somebody' by The Bee Gees. The show will be broadcast in France in March.

from the news page...
lovely!

I can not wait to see this. Ray has been doing this song on tour, here is a video if you care to watch. Unfortunately without Damien, but I dare anyone to say this performance is anything short of beautiful.

Ray singing "To Love Somebody", Union Chapel, London Oct. 06

Lovelylady12 · 01-16-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cille

I really really hope the rumours are true considering Ray accompanying Damien on the European tour in March. I used to think it could never be as good as when Josh Ritter opened for him, but maybe this time around will be just as good or better!!

I could not agree with you more.

Damien and Ray... !

Mattien · 01-16-2007, 08:55 PM

I am having a hard time believing that this collaborative performance actually occurred...I was always under the assumption that the sky would fall if they shared the same stage. Can't wait to see it.

@GoodCat, I favor and support nearly every word of your Ramien comparison.

Closing_Doors · 01-16-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodCatGoneBad

although I think Ray's voice is much much much more powerful.

I was with you until you said that. Thanks for playing though

GoodCatGoneBad · 01-16-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Closing_Doors

I was with you until you said that. Thanks for playing though

Damien's voice just does not soar the way Ray's can.....Sorry guys, I know I am gonna **** for saying so, but its my opinion and I am sticking to it.

GoodCatGoneBad · 01-16-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattien

I am having a hard time believing that this collaborative performance actually occurred...I was always under the assumption that the sky would fall if they shared the same stage. Can't wait to see it.

haha I couldn't have said it better myself. Which is why I am traveling to Berlin to see Damien, in the hopes that Ray will come on stage for just one song. If the earth ended right after that concert, I would die happy

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@GoodCat, I favor and support nearly every word of your Ramien comparison.

LOL @ "Ramien"

Closing_Doors · 01-17-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodCatGoneBad

Damien's voice just does not soar the way Ray's can.....Sorry guys, I know I am gonna **** for saying so, but its my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Meh he has a nice voice but he doesn't have much of a range. (Ray that is)

I've yet to hear it "soar".

cille · 01-17-2007, 08:51 AM

i'd say Ray L has a pretty wide vocal range?!?

Closing_Doors · 01-17-2007, 09:02 AM

Haven't bothered to get the 2nd album yet but I can't think of anything vocally stretching on Trouble. Most of the melodys afaik don't stray much outside an octave. Of course I could be forgetting something...

Anyway I'm not saying you need a 4 1/2 octave range to be a great singer... and I hate dissecting musicians like this (I actually quite like Ray), I just think his voice doesn't hold a candle to Damien's.

cille · 01-17-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Closing_Doors

Haven't bothered to get the 2nd album yet but I can't think of anything vocally stretching on Trouble. Most of the melodys afaik don't stray much outside an octave. Of course I could be forgetting something...

Anyway I'm not saying you need a 4 1/2 octave range to be a great singer... and I hate dissecting musicians like this (I actually quite like Ray), I just think his voice doesn't hold a candle to Damien's.

of course he's no Emmett Tinley, but I do seem to remember a falsetto-ish track on the new album?
I aint down w it enough to know which track tho.

anyhoo, go get that album, GO GO GO

Bumpman · 01-17-2007, 02:04 PM

So back to the topic at hand, who would win in a Damien Rice v. Ray LaMontagne joust?

Closing_Doors · 01-17-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cille

of course he's no Emmett Tinley, but I do seem to remember a falsetto-ish track on the new album?
I aint down w it enough to know which track tho.

anyhoo, go get that album, GO GO GO

Sir, yes sir! (well actually it'll have to wait it's turn - I have plenty of albums waiting that I really should get around to buying)

Anyway my original point wasn't just neccesarily about his range of notes, I think Damien's voice is far more nuanced and emotive. But whatever, to each their own...

And don't get me started on Emmett Tinley!*

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Originally Posted by Bumpman

So back to the topic at hand, who would win in a Damien Rice v. Ray LaMontagne joust?

I think Damien is smaller so he might be harder to dislodge from the horse

*Before I'm crucified: I was joking!

Mattien · 01-17-2007, 03:25 PM

Ray holds the joust as strong as he holds his ax while cutting trees in the forest.

@Closing_Doors: "Haven't bothered to get the 2nd album yet but I can't think of anything vocally stretching on Trouble. Most of the melodys afaik don't stray much outside an octave. Of course I could be forgetting something..."

Please, please, please get a flac player (MusikCube), download a recent live Ray concert (i.e. 11.28.06) and reassess his vocal range. If his voice doesn't make your chest tighten, I will be surprised.

Ramien should have a voice off in Deutschland.

RememberI · 01-17-2007, 07:01 PM

Cheers Everyone,

Dear Closing Doors, Don't Hold The Candle So Tightly Or Your Fur Might Burn. As Oscar Wilde Said: "i Have Nothing To Declare But My Billiance!" Both Ray And Damien Fill That Bill Equally, I Think We All Agree This Isn't A Pagent, Yet Please Gather All The Correct Information Before Commenting On Something You Haven't Heard, I.e. "ray's 2nd Album". You Seem Articulate And Were Correct When You Stated Musicians Shouldn't Be Disected, You Might Want To Also Check Out Ray's 3 Albums That He Recorded Before Trouble When He Was Unsigned.

Ray And Damien Complent Each Other So Well That We Don't Need To Be Reminded That There Is Indeed A God. If These Two Choice Artisits Were To Much A Like We Wouldn't Enjoy Or Appreciate Why Each Is So Dynamically So Powerful, Beautiful. I Really Enjoy Everyone's Take And Respect Everyones Opinion. But I Couldn't Agree More With Mr Benn, Cille, Mattien And Good Cat Gone Bad.

Thanks,
Remember I

cille · 01-17-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Closing_Doors

I think Damien is smaller so he might be harder to dislodge from the horse

The hoarse?

borneoman · 01-18-2007, 04:04 AM

By the way, I think Ray was playing tonight (the 17th) in Dublin, wasn't he? Wonder if Damo was there... anyone?

GoodCatGoneBad · 01-18-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattien

Ramien should have a voice off in Deutschland.

I think I would pee in my pants if that happened. twice.

Juzzza · 01-18-2007, 02:57 PM

I wouldn't like to be without either artists and taste is very personal, so no real point in an A 'V' B type discussion...

I am really pleased about Ray joining Damo on tour as I have tickets for the Berlin show and can't wait!

Closing_Doors · 01-18-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cille

The hoarse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jousting

(it was in response to: )

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Originally Posted by Bumpman

So back to the topic at hand, who would win in a Damien Rice v. Ray LaMontagne joust?

Bumpman · 01-18-2007, 08:04 PM

Ha ha! Cille doesn't know what Jousting is... pretty soon she's going to have to start wearing a helmet.

cille · 01-18-2007, 08:57 PM

I vas playing viz vortz

Spamlet · 01-18-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cille

I vas playing viz vortz

Go to VH-1's site instead (link contained within the page of the following link) and play this instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joust_%28arcade_game%29

See if you can beat my high score, I'm still at numbers 2 and 3 in their all-time champions list!

Ah, mis-spent youth!

julia · 01-18-2007, 10:34 PM

No comparison ... its Damien, King Damien...

I adore him, no one comes close..

administrator · 01-18-2007, 10:56 PM

i saw ray tonight and he was just amazing... one of the best concerts i've ever been to.

Nine · 01-18-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by julia

No comparison ... its Damien, King Damien...

I adore him, no one comes close..

same here

However, if there was someone I had to choose to put on my really tall Damien pedastal aswell, it would be Ray.

Then Fionn

I think Ray is a fantastic lyricist, and he has a mesmerising voice. But for me, nothing at all will ever compare to Damien.

Just like Lost - Desperate Housewives is excellent fun, i adore it - but nothing will ever beat Lost!

thirsty · 01-19-2007, 11:14 AM

i one thing i prefer with ray was how quickly he recorded his second album and released it.....

Nine · 01-19-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thirsty

i one thing i prefer with ray was how quickly he recorded his second album and released it.....

ah see I'm the other way round. Whilst the wait for 9 was angonising and frusrtrating, I would much rather an Artist took all the time they felt they needed to get a release exactly how they wanted it, rather than rushing it for the sake of the public (dont get me wrong I'm not at all saying that that is what Ray did or does) - and it not being perfect in the eyes of the artist.

If Damien felt that's how long he needed, then i'm cool. Frustrated, but cool. lol

Mr Benn. · 01-19-2007, 03:55 PM

Till the sun turns back is pretty damn polished though. It flows from track to track like a river. I think it's just a different process they go through, Damien comes across as a bit of a perfectionist to me which isn't entirely a bad thing it just means you get time to recover before he blows you away again.

ahilton · 01-20-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beatleboogie

I wouldn't say they sound similar, but if you like melancholic music in general I'd recommend these (you probably heard them all):

Ed Harcourt, Tom McRae, Jeff Buckley, José Gonzales, Ryan Adams (when he's not too much "country&western") and even Shawn Mullins (when he's not too much country&western!)

-Thanks a lot. Tom Mcrae jumped out at me right away. I had never heard of him. Bloodless and You only dissapear are amazing.

01-16-2007, 07:15 PM	#31
Mr Benn. Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 179	I would never have clumped the two together. I love both of them but for very different reasons. The only two similarity's i can see between the style of Damien and Ray is that they are indeed both solo artists with an acoustic guitar (a rare breed I hear..) and they both as almost brutally honest in some of there songs but Damien's honesty about well... "paper mache" is different from Ray's honesty of "Big Bonned-Woman" Both use there music to tell a story. Damien usually of heart break and Ray, in his earlier stuff atleast of his hard life. Ray to me although still intense at times seems to me to have a more lighthearted side to him than Damien. __________________ Should I go If she calls out my name? And if she bleeds Should I wipe up the stain? And if I'm low Can I drown in this rain? I guess I'm no good I guess I'm insane

01-17-2007, 08:51 AM	#39
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	i'd say Ray L has a pretty wide vocal range?!? __________________ Yeah

01-17-2007, 09:02 AM	#40
Closing_Doors Hysterical & Useless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,329	Haven't bothered to get the 2nd album yet but I can't think of anything vocally stretching on Trouble. Most of the melodys afaik don't stray much outside an octave. Of course I could be forgetting something... Anyway I'm not saying you need a 4 1/2 octave range to be a great singer... and I hate dissecting musicians like this (I actually quite like Ray), I just think his voice doesn't hold a candle to Damien's. __________________ Come clean, come good, repeat with me the punch line 'Just like blood' when those at the back rush forward to say how a little love goes a long long long way. -- Simon Armitage

01-17-2007, 02:04 PM	#42
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	So back to the topic at hand, who would win in a Damien Rice v. Ray LaMontagne joust? __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-17-2007, 07:01 PM	#45
RememberI Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1	Cheers Everyone, Dear Closing Doors, Don't Hold The Candle So Tightly Or Your Fur Might Burn. As Oscar Wilde Said: "i Have Nothing To Declare But My Billiance!" Both Ray And Damien Fill That Bill Equally, I Think We All Agree This Isn't A Pagent, Yet Please Gather All The Correct Information Before Commenting On Something You Haven't Heard, I.e. "ray's 2nd Album". You Seem Articulate And Were Correct When You Stated Musicians Shouldn't Be Disected, You Might Want To Also Check Out Ray's 3 Albums That He Recorded Before Trouble When He Was Unsigned. Ray And Damien Complent Each Other So Well That We Don't Need To Be Reminded That There Is Indeed A God. If These Two Choice Artisits Were To Much A Like We Wouldn't Enjoy Or Appreciate Why Each Is So Dynamically So Powerful, Beautiful. I Really Enjoy Everyone's Take And Respect Everyones Opinion. But I Couldn't Agree More With Mr Benn, Cille, Mattien And Good Cat Gone Bad. Thanks, Remember I Last edited by RememberI; 01-17-2007 at 07:16 PM.

01-16-2007, 08:55 PM	#34
Mattien Eskimo Baby Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 21	I am having a hard time believing that this collaborative performance actually occurred...I was always under the assumption that the sky would fall if they shared the same stage. Can't wait to see it. @GoodCat, I favor and support nearly every word of your Ramien comparison.

01-17-2007, 03:25 PM	#44
Mattien Eskimo Baby Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 21	Ray holds the joust as strong as he holds his ax while cutting trees in the forest. @Closing_Doors: "Haven't bothered to get the 2nd album yet but I can't think of anything vocally stretching on Trouble. Most of the melodys afaik don't stray much outside an octave. Of course I could be forgetting something..." Please, please, please get a flac player (MusikCube), download a recent live Ray concert (i.e. 11.28.06) and reassess his vocal range. If his voice doesn't make your chest tighten, I will be surprised. Ramien should have a voice off in Deutschland.

01-18-2007, 04:04 AM	#47
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	By the way, I think Ray was playing tonight (the 17th) in Dublin, wasn't he? Wonder if Damo was there... anyone?

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Juzzza Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Jersey Posts: 924	I wouldn't like to be without either artists and taste is very personal, so no real point in an A 'V' B type discussion... I am really pleased about Ray joining Damo on tour as I have tickets for the Berlin show and can't wait! __________________ www.justinthorne.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 'Ninjas killed my family, I need money for Kung-Fu lessons'... homeless guy's sign, New York (May 2005) http://www.myspace.com/justinthorne http://www.myspace.com/jtintheshadows

01-18-2007, 08:04 PM	#51
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	Ha ha! Cille doesn't know what Jousting is... pretty soon she's going to have to start wearing a helmet. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

01-18-2007, 08:57 PM	#52
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	I vas playing viz vortz __________________ Yeah

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julia Eskimo Yogi.. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland Girl! Posts: 1,078	No comparison ... its Damien, King Damien... I adore him, no one comes close.. __________________ "There's something magical about music and the simple fact that it's a vibration of air. It's sort of magical if you vibrate the air in a certain way, people are pleased by it." Damien Rice

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administrator forum administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,480	i saw ray tonight and he was just amazing... one of the best concerts i've ever been to. __________________ Keep checking the news page for all the latest Damien Rice news.

01-19-2007, 11:14 AM	#57
thirsty Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 57	i one thing i prefer with ray was how quickly he recorded his second album and released it.....

01-19-2007, 03:55 PM	#59
Mr Benn. Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 179	Till the sun turns back is pretty damn polished though. It flows from track to track like a river. I think it's just a different process they go through, Damien comes across as a bit of a perfectionist to me which isn't entirely a bad thing it just means you get time to recover before he blows you away again. __________________ Should I go If she calls out my name? And if she bleeds Should I wipe up the stain? And if I'm low Can I drown in this rain? I guess I'm no good I guess I'm insane