highschool in ireland...

ifancyclancy · 04-06-2006, 08:39 PM

Right now i live in america but i havent always so yeah i guess that doesnt really make a difference for what im talking about but anyways im pretty sure im going to ireland next semester and im still in highschool and everything but i was wondering what its like how many hours a day is it what time does it usually start at is there lots of homework do you have one teacher or a different one for each class do you have electives and do all public schools have a uniform i have more questioins but those are the only i can think of right now so if anyone can answer any of those that would be great thanks

Beevers_uk · 04-06-2006, 08:47 PM

Im not Irish, but i was bored and looked it up for you. Here is some information i found!

Irish Education
Irish School Examinations
Irish Education Directory

I dont know if they were helpful, but i had a quick look through them!

Livo · 04-06-2006, 09:00 PM

hey ifancyclancy. i'm in fourth year in an irish secondary school in cork and i'll give you the lowdown on my school.

it's owned by the mercy order nuns but soon it'll be handed over to a board of managment or something. it's all-girls, with about 600-700 girls in the school, so about 100 per year. we have a blue v-neck jumper, blue and white striped shirt and blue skirt.

irish secondary education lasts 6 years. you generally start when you're 12/13, in first year. you finish when you're around 18/19 in sixth year. it's divided into two halves - junior and senior. 1st to 3rd year are juniors, 4th to 6th years are seniors. there are two sets of state examinations you must sit - the first in june of 3rd year (junior certificate) and the second in june of sixth year (leaving certificate). in junior cert i did 10 subjects - english, irish, maths, history, geography, civic social political education, french, science (all compulsory except for irish which you don't have to do if you aren't irish), spanish and business studies (everyone has to choose two option subjects in first year - we get a choice of spanish, german, business studies, home economics, art and music). then for leaving cert you must do english, irish (again, not compulsory if you're not irish), maths and a foreign language, and three or more subjects. i'm going to be doing english, irish, maths, french, spanish, history and geography.

after third year is fourth year - transition year. it's brilliant. it's a break from academic work and it's more into maturing and doing fun stuff. in our school we do a fashion show, a musical, work experience, charity work, collecting for various chairities throughout the year, cinema trips, a skiing trip and some girls go to calcutta. that, and you bumble round the place doing fun stuff in school. we also do every subject on offer in the school (except music, for some weird reason) and modules (first aid, computers, yoga, art, filmmaking, dancing, cookery, speech and drama, guidance etc)

we start every morning at twenty to nine. classes are 40 minutes long (35 on mondays) so we get out at 3.35 every day (2.55 on mondays). we also have a half day every wednesday at 12.55.

generally you have a different teacher for every subject. but most teachers teach more than one subject, so you may end up having the same teacher for more than one class.

homework depends on the teacher. last year we always had a ridiculous amount of maths homework which we had to do, or our teacher would make us do it out twice for the next day on top of that day's homework. then again, we got english homework about once a month. however, in fifth and sixth year the homework and studying is really heaped on you, as every subject at leaving cert level is difficult and requires a lot of studying.

the majority of irish schools have uniforms and there are a lot of single sex schools. all my friends go to single sex schools though there are a few mixed schools around the place.

well, i hope i've been of some help to you!!

Beevers_uk · 04-06-2006, 09:18 PM

wow Livo, very detailed "lowdown" on irish education!

Hendrik · 04-07-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Livo

it's all-girls,

and there are a lot of single sex schools. all my friends go to single sex schools

Wow, it's still like that even in the year 2006? Bizarre.

I think it's so wrong and unnatural to have single-sex schools. What's the point of it? If schools wanna prepare you for life....well, then...mix it, baby. That's life.

Cali, weren't you also going to one (if I remember that correctly?)? What was it like?

Aisling · 04-07-2006, 10:25 AM

not every school has 4th year tho (transition year) i never did it any way, and a lot of the time it's optional. i think it depends on where you go to school.
i went to a school that was mixed and had no uniform. and my day started at 9 and ended at 4..again i depends where you go, but i was never fortunate to have a half day like livi.
i think that's all for me..

*Kat · 04-07-2006, 12:36 PM

Statistically, girls perform better in single sex schools. Less distractions!!!

Hendrik · 04-07-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kat

Statistically, girls perform better in single sex schools. Less distractions!!!

Balls to that. And what if they're lesbo? Distractions me arse.

*Kat · 04-08-2006, 01:46 AM

The lesbos are a minority, so the statistic still stands.
I'm a prime example myself. Was an A+ student in school (all girls school) then in college I studied engineering. Had only 14% girls in my class and barely scraped a 2.2. Distractions!!!

*Kat · 04-08-2006, 01:51 AM

The lesbos are a minority, so the statistic still stands.
I'm a prime example myself. Was an A+ student in school (all girls school) then in college I studied engineering. Had only 14% girls in my class and barely scraped a 2.2. Distractions!!!

Hendrik · 04-08-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by *Kat

The lesbos are a minority, so the statistic still stands.
I'm a prime example myself. Was an A+ student in school (all girls school) then in college I studied engineering. Had only 14% girls in my class and barely scraped a 2.2. Distractions!!!

What a pity that you got all them "distractions" in your future (job) life now.

SisterMidnight · 04-08-2006, 07:10 AM

actually girls do perform better in single sex classrooms, but not because of distractions.. teachers of both sexes subconsciously favor boys by calling on them more, giving them more individual instruction, praising and reinforcing their efforts more often..

i belong to the american association of university women, their goal is to advocate for equality in education and careers for girls and women.. they've done a lot of studies on this..

Hendrik · 04-08-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

actually girls do perform better in single sex classrooms, but not because of distractions.. teachers of both sexes subconsciously favor boys by calling on them more, giving them more individual instruction, praising and reinforcing their efforts more often..

Okay, that's an argument and should be antagonized.

WhatAmIDarling? · 04-09-2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

actually girls do perform better in single sex classrooms, but not because of distractions.. teachers of both sexes subconsciously favor boys by calling on them more, giving them more individual instruction, praising and reinforcing their efforts more often..

i belong to the american association of university women, their goal is to advocate for equality in education and careers for girls and women.. they've done a lot of studies on this..

Yeah. I'm guilty of not always speaking up in class because of not wanting to sound like a know-it-all, goody-goody in front of a cute guy. Morbidly stupid, I know. But it happens almost subconciously.

SisterMidnight · 04-10-2006, 05:36 AM

i know, it's almost instinctual or something but don't do that, don't dumb yourself down.. any guy worth his salt will appreciate that you have a brain..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Okay, that's an argument and should be antagonized.

bring it on

Hendrik · 04-10-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

bring it on

Hope that wasn't a misunderstanding, I didn't mean "the argument should be antagonized", the unfairness how girls are treated in schools subtly should.

Livo · 04-10-2006, 09:19 AM

to be honest, i'm straight and i don't think i'd like to go to a mixed school. yeah it would be kinda fun i guess but school's number one priority is to learn stuff - i don't think we'd get that done if it was mixed!

eims · 04-10-2006, 01:17 PM

wowee.. some hot topics here! There are many choices of schools to go to here, and they're often single sex and single religion... but lets not go down that road.. :P

WhatAmIDarling? · 04-10-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Livo

to be honest, i'm straight and i don't think i'd like to go to a mixed school. yeah it would be kinda fun i guess but school's number one priority is to learn stuff - i don't think we'd get that done if it was mixed!

Are none of the schools "mixed" in Ireland???

Livo · 04-10-2006, 07:38 PM

ah no there are loads of mixed schools in ireland - all of the community schools are mixed, i think all of the gaelscoils as well.

WhatAmIDarling? · 04-10-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Livo

ah no there are loads of mixed schools in ireland - all of the community schools are mixed, i think all of the gaelscoils as well.

Ah ok. I got confused. haha.

Timeé · 04-10-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Livo

hey ifancyclancy. i'm in fourth year in an irish secondary school in cork

me too!

wait im not in cork.. and you get off early on mondays?!
guess that bob geldof song stuck huh..

WhatAmIDarling? · 04-10-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Timeé

me too!

wait im not in cork.. and you get off early on mondays?!
guess that bob geldof song stuck huh..

Fourth year, meaning you're 17? 18?

SisterMidnight · 04-11-2006, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Hope that wasn't a misunderstanding, I didn't mean "the argument should be antagonized", the unfairness how girls are treated in schools subtly should.

haha hendrik, i thought you wanted another heated debate! my bad

i should have known that wasn't the case this time, you speak out more on women's issues than any other man on here

i was ready to defend my argument though..

Global: Gender equity far from being achieved

2006-03-14

There is not a single country in the world today where women have the same opportunities as men, and although progress has been made in some areas in recent years, women are still disadvantaged in economic and political life. Gender equity is far from being achieved. The opportunities available to men and women are unequal in every country in the world. Almost 70% of the world's poor are women. The most obvious inequities are seen in the economic and political spheres. The exclusion of women is clearly visible in the political sphere. Although they account for more than half of the world's population, women occupy only 15% percent of seats in the world's parliaments on average.

http://www.socialwatch.org/

it all starts in the education system.. it's the primary socializing institution of our children.. devaluing girls and oppressing women is obvious in some cultures, but it goes on subtly in all of them.. still.

sorry for going off topic there, i'll get off my soapbox now...

hey, do they even call it "high" school in ireland?

Gatsby · 04-11-2006, 02:53 AM

trust a topic on highschools to turn into a feminist thread

and no we call it secondary school

or waste of time is what i called it

SisterMidnight · 04-11-2006, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Revelate

trust a topic on highschools to turn into a feminist thread

and no we call it secondary school

or waste of time is what i called it

ditto

or more like wasted time rather

cneill · 04-11-2006, 03:13 AM

ahhhh...high school... life was so simple then

Hendrik · 04-11-2006, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

haha hendrik, i thought you wanted another heated debate! my bad

No problem.

Livo · 04-11-2006, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhatAmIDarling?

Fourth year, meaning you're 17? 18?

nope, 16/17

Livo · 04-11-2006, 10:50 AM

oh and something i forgot was that irish secondary schools have brilliant holidays - one week in october, two weeks for christmas, one week in february, two weeks for easter and then usually - get this - three months for summer. god i love ireland.

04-06-2006, 08:39 PM	#1
ifancyclancy Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6	highschool in ireland... Right now i live in america but i havent always so yeah i guess that doesnt really make a difference for what im talking about but anyways im pretty sure im going to ireland next semester and im still in highschool and everything but i was wondering what its like how many hours a day is it what time does it usually start at is there lots of homework do you have one teacher or a different one for each class do you have electives and do all public schools have a uniform i have more questioins but those are the only i can think of right now so if anyone can answer any of those that would be great thanks

04-06-2006, 08:47 PM	#2
Beevers_uk Esquimal Conducido Pasión Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In My Sugar Coated World, Filled With Angels And Love And Happiness And... And You. Posts: 4,421	Im not Irish, but i was bored and looked it up for you. Here is some information i found! Irish Education Irish School Examinations Irish Education Directory I dont know if they were helpful, but i had a quick look through them! __________________ ...~Gemma Hayes~... - Just To See How Hard, You Can Make Me Cry - ...~Duke Special~... - Im Not Who You Think I am, I Slipped A Stranger Inside - ...~Noelie Mcdonnell~... - You'll Be My Muse, And I'll Be Your Poet - ...~My Myspace Thingy~...

04-06-2006, 09:00 PM	#3
Livo Eskimo Frames Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: People's Republic of Cork Posts: 2,559	hey ifancyclancy. i'm in fourth year in an irish secondary school in cork and i'll give you the lowdown on my school. it's owned by the mercy order nuns but soon it'll be handed over to a board of managment or something. it's all-girls, with about 600-700 girls in the school, so about 100 per year. we have a blue v-neck jumper, blue and white striped shirt and blue skirt. irish secondary education lasts 6 years. you generally start when you're 12/13, in first year. you finish when you're around 18/19 in sixth year. it's divided into two halves - junior and senior. 1st to 3rd year are juniors, 4th to 6th years are seniors. there are two sets of state examinations you must sit - the first in june of 3rd year (junior certificate) and the second in june of sixth year (leaving certificate). in junior cert i did 10 subjects - english, irish, maths, history, geography, civic social political education, french, science (all compulsory except for irish which you don't have to do if you aren't irish), spanish and business studies (everyone has to choose two option subjects in first year - we get a choice of spanish, german, business studies, home economics, art and music). then for leaving cert you must do english, irish (again, not compulsory if you're not irish), maths and a foreign language, and three or more subjects. i'm going to be doing english, irish, maths, french, spanish, history and geography. after third year is fourth year - transition year. it's brilliant. it's a break from academic work and it's more into maturing and doing fun stuff. in our school we do a fashion show, a musical, work experience, charity work, collecting for various chairities throughout the year, cinema trips, a skiing trip and some girls go to calcutta. that, and you bumble round the place doing fun stuff in school. we also do every subject on offer in the school (except music, for some weird reason) and modules (first aid, computers, yoga, art, filmmaking, dancing, cookery, speech and drama, guidance etc) we start every morning at twenty to nine. classes are 40 minutes long (35 on mondays) so we get out at 3.35 every day (2.55 on mondays). we also have a half day every wednesday at 12.55. generally you have a different teacher for every subject. but most teachers teach more than one subject, so you may end up having the same teacher for more than one class. homework depends on the teacher. last year we always had a ridiculous amount of maths homework which we had to do, or our teacher would make us do it out twice for the next day on top of that day's homework. then again, we got english homework about once a month. however, in fifth and sixth year the homework and studying is really heaped on you, as every subject at leaving cert level is difficult and requires a lot of studying. the majority of irish schools have uniforms and there are a lot of single sex schools. all my friends go to single sex schools though there are a few mixed schools around the place. well, i hope i've been of some help to you!! __________________ trying to find a little chaos in the order..

04-06-2006, 09:18 PM	#4
Beevers_uk Esquimal Conducido Pasión Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In My Sugar Coated World, Filled With Angels And Love And Happiness And... And You. Posts: 4,421	wow Livo, very detailed "lowdown" on irish education! __________________ ...~Gemma Hayes~... - Just To See How Hard, You Can Make Me Cry - ...~Duke Special~... - Im Not Who You Think I am, I Slipped A Stranger Inside - ...~Noelie Mcdonnell~... - You'll Be My Muse, And I'll Be Your Poet - ...~My Myspace Thingy~...

04-07-2006, 10:25 AM	#6
Aisling Mel is so hot right now Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bromwich suite Posts: 2,773	not every school has 4th year tho (transition year) i never did it any way, and a lot of the time it's optional. i think it depends on where you go to school. i went to a school that was mixed and had no uniform. and my day started at 9 and ended at 4..again i depends where you go, but i was never fortunate to have a half day like livi. i think that's all for me.. __________________ america is so hot right now

04-07-2006, 12:36 PM	#7
*Kat I don't wanna be labeled! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 117	Statistically, girls perform better in single sex schools. Less distractions!!! __________________ Well I've been here before...

04-08-2006, 01:46 AM	#9
*Kat I don't wanna be labeled! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 117	The lesbos are a minority, so the statistic still stands. I'm a prime example myself. Was an A+ student in school (all girls school) then in college I studied engineering. Had only 14% girls in my class and barely scraped a 2.2. Distractions!!! __________________ Well I've been here before...

04-08-2006, 01:51 AM	#10
*Kat I don't wanna be labeled! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 117	The lesbos are a minority, so the statistic still stands. I'm a prime example myself. Was an A+ student in school (all girls school) then in college I studied engineering. Had only 14% girls in my class and barely scraped a 2.2. Distractions!!! __________________ Well I've been here before...

04-08-2006, 07:10 AM	#12
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	actually girls do perform better in single sex classrooms, but not because of distractions.. teachers of both sexes subconsciously favor boys by calling on them more, giving them more individual instruction, praising and reinforcing their efforts more often.. i belong to the american association of university women, their goal is to advocate for equality in education and careers for girls and women.. they've done a lot of studies on this..

04-10-2006, 09:19 AM	#17
Livo Eskimo Frames Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: People's Republic of Cork Posts: 2,559	to be honest, i'm straight and i don't think i'd like to go to a mixed school. yeah it would be kinda fun i guess but school's number one priority is to learn stuff - i don't think we'd get that done if it was mixed! __________________ trying to find a little chaos in the order..

04-10-2006, 01:17 PM	#18
eims Eskimo Eejit Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: University of Wales, Aberystwyth. Originally from Norn Iron tho.. Posts: 2,517	wowee.. some hot topics here! There are many choices of schools to go to here, and they're often single sex and single religion... but lets not go down that road.. :P __________________ ..We can speak louder than ignorance Cause we speak in silence everytime our eyes meet..

04-10-2006, 07:38 PM	#20
Livo Eskimo Frames Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: People's Republic of Cork Posts: 2,559	ah no there are loads of mixed schools in ireland - all of the community schools are mixed, i think all of the gaelscoils as well. __________________ trying to find a little chaos in the order..

04-11-2006, 02:53 AM	#25
Gatsby Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,809	trust a topic on highschools to turn into a feminist thread and no we call it secondary school or waste of time is what i called it __________________ "Tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms further…And on fine morning - So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past." https://www.twitch.tv/simonjmusic

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cneill eskimo hobo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in limbo Posts: 739	ahhhh...high school... life was so simple then __________________ Coniunctio Gaudium Scientia Est Dimidium facti qui coepit habet: sapere aude. -Horace www.myspace.com/cpneill photography!: http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=1820624

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Livo Eskimo Frames Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: People's Republic of Cork Posts: 2,559	oh and something i forgot was that irish secondary schools have brilliant holidays - one week in october, two weeks for christmas, one week in february, two weeks for easter and then usually - get this - three months for summer. god i love ireland. __________________ trying to find a little chaos in the order..