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Old 07-31-2004, 10:50 PM   #1
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Hey i dunno about you guys, but personally i think that the "Eskimo for Kerry" ad on the front page should be taken off. Whether you believe in Kerry or Bush (or Nadar), i think we should try to keep politics where they belong. I think that Damien would agree with me here.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:01 PM   #2
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Well.... it's Emmett's site and he supports Kerry so.... his call, I guess. Emmett's very political! [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:02 PM   #3
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Could I ask you to remove the hardcore porn link from your personal profile and keep that were it belongs? I found that pretty offensive.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:07 PM   #4
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man that is sick,i think that goes against forum rules


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Old 07-31-2004, 11:53 PM   #6
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Hi Jeff,

First of all, I've had to remove the web link you gave as it's pretty horrible and definitely against the forum rules.

Secondly, the John Kerry sign isn't coming down. I don't speak for Damien and this site doesn't either. I would never presume to know what he would think about anything. I personally don't think that there is a single place where politics belongs. I'm really proud to support John Kerry and I hate the idea that you would suggest to someone to censor their political beliefs, particularly on their own website. If it's a big problem for you, then there are plenty of other damien rice fan sites you could visit instead.
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Old 08-01-2004, 12:49 AM   #7
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good for you man, stick to your guns [img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]
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[img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]I agree with you emmett.
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Old 08-01-2004, 01:42 AM   #10
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i loved michael moore'sfilm Fahrenheit 911. [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]although i thought it was bias; i was ableto over look that and see that it is quite a beautiful film. lucy
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:12 AM   #11
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[img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]emmett roks!
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Old 08-01-2004, 04:48 PM   #13
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Old 08-01-2004, 05:09 PM   #14
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"Hey i dunno about you guys, but personally i think that the "Eskimo for Kerry" ad on the front page should be taken off. Whether you believe in Kerry or Bush (or Nadar), i think we should try to keep politics where they belong. I think that Damien would agree with me here."


You must be a bush supporter, hence the fact that you are trying to take someone's freedom of speech away. Who cares if emmett supports Kerry or anyone else. In reality you cant escape politics. In one way or another politics is everywhere, even in music. People should let others know who they support. If emmett decides to support kerry, who in my opinion is the better candidate, then thats his choice and for you to try and deny him the right to publicly announce who he supports is wrong. Why dont you go start ripping Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers off the backs of cars, or go rip bush/cheney signs out of yards?


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Old 08-02-2004, 07:43 AM   #15
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Hey, first of all that link in my profile was a result of spyware (i have no idea how it got there, or even what it was) and i didnt even know about it till you guys said somthing, sorry about the mistake.


Secondly, im not tryn to censor, or take away nebody's freedom of speech, just a simple opinion.Iwasnttryn to hurt ne ones feelings just tryn to spark a good conversation. I didn't think you guys would take it as an attack on Emmit. Apoligies
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:46 AM   #16
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Oh, and Lucy i agree with you, Moore is an incrediblly talented film maker from an artistic standpoint. However, i do think farenheit 9/11 was nothing more than propaganda.
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Old 08-02-2004, 12:58 PM   #17
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ooh emmett's gettin rough. yaaaaaaaay for u emm!!!
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i think that's a fair apology![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]all is happy gain in the igloo!


emmett's got that rough and ready image perfected alright!![img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img][img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]
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Oh, and Lucy i agree with you, Moore is an incrediblly talented film maker from an artistic standpoint. However, i do think farenheit 9/11 was nothing more than propaganda.

It is propaganda, yes. Nobody would deny that. Michael Moore himself wouldn't, i'm sure, as he has openly said he hopes this film will guarantee Bush isnt reelected. I watched that film with that in mind, and still found that it was factual and I would accept the basic message it told.You, me and the rest of the world are bombarded with propagandaall the time, whether you realise it or not. The papers and tv networks are full of the most blatant propagandist nonsense. It's up to you as an intellegent individual to decide for yourself who to believe. Emmett has made his decision, and is acting how he see's fit. It is not your place to tell him what to do.


I myself don't feel John Kerry is particulalry the right man for the job. But I would take him over Bush any day.


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noun [u] MAINLY DISAPPROVING
information, ideas, opinions or images, often only giving one part of an argument, which are broadcast, published or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions
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I myself don't feel John Kerry is particulalry the right man for the job. But I would take him over Bush any day.



I hope I we are not having a similar discussion in years to come, trying to get rid of Kerry. He doesnt instill me with a great deal of confidence.


edit: but he does by a whole lot more than Bush.
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:14 PM   #21
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Not trying to tell anybody what to do guys, just an opinion sorry you took it that way. Again, i was just tryn to have a good conversation i dont know why it has to be taken as hostile, i would never tell any of you guys waht to do, but i will tell you what I think



And I agree with you dream brother that we are sorrounded by propaganda all the time and we should make the decisions for ourselves. However i just think that decision, whatever it might be, should be based on the facts. And i dont have any respect for someone who twists those facts to change peoples minds, wether they are conservative or liberal.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:34 PM   #22
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jclapt38 I didn't read your original post as particularly hostile... and I respect your thoughts on whether the banner should be on this site...

But I just disagree. This is too important. The world just doesn't function well with "W" as P.O.T.U.S. and we need to get EVERYONE possible to vote for Kerry to be sure he can't pull another fast one during THIS election.

Get out there and vote people!
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Hey Wheels, the punks are voting! Check out my Punk 101 thread for the link! [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img](and I'll be voting btw, fat lot of good it did last time with the Florida chad fiasco!) In fact my brother is running on the Democratic ticket for a state senate seat in Iowa. [img]smileys/smiley14.gif[/img]I'm so proud!! A punk/piercer and a junior senator in the same family!! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]
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I'm Glad sombody wasnt offended by that post.


hey sistermidnight thats awsome, u should be proud good luck to ya.


speaking of senate, Term limits, yes or no?
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Yes to term limits-- too many old fellasin the "old boy network" as it is. [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]
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speaking of senate, Term limits, yes or no?


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Yes to term limits-- too many old fellasin the "old boy network" as it is.

what are term limits, could someone explain to a non-american?[img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2004, 11:18 AM   #28
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That was a close shave, as I read this thread I almost had an opinion on something political! [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]I'm off to read a thread about toast, or rollerskates ....
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Term limits are simply, a limit to the amount of time a senetor or congressman can have that position. The way the system works nowe its like if your in, than ur pretty much in for life. Term limits would keep us from having to deal with all the Strom Thrumans. Just like a president can only serve 2 terms, it would be similiar to that.


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Term limits are simply, a limit to the amount of time a senetor or congressman can have that position. The way the system works nowe its like if your in, than ur pretty much in for life.

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