Religion....

unspokenanswer · 08-04-2005, 04:26 AM

I was just mulling this around in my head for a bit. I figured I'd attempt to get feedback, so here I go. I find that Damo uses a bit of religious terminology in his songs...any thoughts? Ave Maria at the end of Baby Sister, the part of Delicate, Cold Water...and I can't get the thought out of my head that Volcano is somehow biblically related. Am I crazy or has anyone noticed this?

Cali · 08-04-2005, 04:32 AM

you're not crazy, i've noticed that too. how about little speech before me, my yoke and i about him feeling guilty for playing with his "friend". i think he grew up in a religious enviroment and that's influenced his songwriting

unspokenanswer · 08-04-2005, 04:51 AM

Oh, yeah; I forgot about My Yolk and I. Good point. In the version of that I have he says: "All good things are bad, well not. Well, actually, yes..." Classic Catholic. I think you are right, and the religion is still in him, actually. Though he always struck me as very Zhen Buddhist, I think I regress. Classic Catholic/Protestant, because I don't remember what part of Ireland Celbridge is in. Any of you natives know off-hand?

*Killian* · 08-04-2005, 12:08 PM

celbridge is just outside dublin, but in Co. Kildare

Blackcanvas · 08-04-2005, 12:56 PM

D'You think Baby sister is a attack on christianity?

"keep drinking, or he'll beat u, he'll bleach your eyes"?

i.e, Drink the blood of christ or he'll beat you (God?)

Because the Ave Maria seems like its a lullaby to get her to sleep, but twisted...

Dont want to speculate on whether its his baby sister but ...

*Killian* · 08-04-2005, 01:07 PM

this is gettin' deep

Wheels · 08-04-2005, 06:37 PM

Baby Sister was written for a film... about the characters in the film... a child who is abused.

unspokenanswer · 08-04-2005, 06:40 PM

Wow, I guess I never really thought about Baby Sister like that. If you think the way I did; about the Zhen Buddhism thing, it would make complete sense. Which, in light of what Blackcanvas wrote, makes the song a lot more complicated. I always interpreted Baby Sister as him speaking out against child abuse. Kind of satirizing it; though I like the "against Christianity" a lot better. Hmm, good thought. But if it is against Christianity, how do we explain the other references to the Bible and Christian thought which we've already established frequent his songs?

...just thinking...

Iwasatabarwiththis,lady · 12-23-2005, 06:03 PM

thought 2 days before the big one may be an appropriate time to drag this up. I heard a saviour of mankind was born or something like that, im not speculating.

Incedently, is damien catholic?

Bumpman · 12-24-2005, 12:53 AM

Most of Ireland in the 70's had Catholicism drilled into them at school and all over daily life, being raised Catholic isn't something you could have escaped from them at the time. It would be a real novelty to find someone who grew up in a secular environment in 70's Ireland. He's spoken about it at shows before playing Me, My Yoke And I, but it's usually the same old story for most people so it's not worth going into detail over.

SilentNight · 12-24-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackcanvas

D'You think Baby sister is a attack on christianity?

Dont want to speculate on whether its his baby sister but ...

what a twist of mind this is !?!

Penny Lane · 12-24-2005, 04:45 PM

wow I've never heard baby sister.....anyone willing to send it to me?

Profandy · 12-24-2005, 05:07 PM

Hi Penny,

I can send you a copy if you Email me (strummeister@gmail.com), can't remember where I got it but its labelled 'live'. The religion thing - just my opinion but I think cold water's obviously about religion and death. Not sure about Baby Sister, I would go with Wheels on that one - but I don't know the film. Anyone know it?

08-04-2005, 04:26 AM	#1
unspokenanswer Blue Eyed Eskimo Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York, U.S.A. Posts: 114	Religion.... I was just mulling this around in my head for a bit. I figured I'd attempt to get feedback, so here I go. I find that Damo uses a bit of religious terminology in his songs...any thoughts? Ave Maria at the end of Baby Sister, the part of Delicate, Cold Water...and I can't get the thought out of my head that Volcano is somehow biblically related. Am I crazy or has anyone noticed this?

08-04-2005, 04:32 AM	#2
Cali Vegetable Eskimo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A room of musical tunes Posts: 5,158	you're not crazy, i've noticed that too. how about little speech before me, my yoke and i about him feeling guilty for playing with his "friend". i think he grew up in a religious enviroment and that's influenced his songwriting __________________ Scrubs Ted and Kate Micucci Screw You (full song) __________________________________ note: my name is NOT short for California

08-04-2005, 12:08 PM	#4
Killian If Carlsberg Did Eskimos Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: near Dublin Posts: 2,384	celbridge is just outside dublin, but in Co. Kildare __________________ It was that kind of a crazy afternoon, terrifically cold, and no sun out or anything, and you felt like you were disappearing every time you crossed a road.

08-04-2005, 01:07 PM	#6
Killian If Carlsberg Did Eskimos Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: near Dublin Posts: 2,384	this is gettin' deep __________________ It was that kind of a crazy afternoon, terrifically cold, and no sun out or anything, and you felt like you were disappearing every time you crossed a road.

08-04-2005, 06:37 PM	#7
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Baby Sister was written for a film... about the characters in the film... a child who is abused. __________________

08-04-2005, 04:51 AM	#3
unspokenanswer Blue Eyed Eskimo Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York, U.S.A. Posts: 114	Oh, yeah; I forgot about My Yolk and I. Good point. In the version of that I have he says: "All good things are bad, well not. Well, actually, yes..." Classic Catholic. I think you are right, and the religion is still in him, actually. Though he always struck me as very Zhen Buddhist, I think I regress. Classic Catholic/Protestant, because I don't remember what part of Ireland Celbridge is in. Any of you natives know off-hand?

08-04-2005, 12:56 PM	#5
Blackcanvas Eskimo Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 52	D'You think Baby sister is a attack on christianity? "keep drinking, or he'll beat u, he'll bleach your eyes"? i.e, Drink the blood of christ or he'll beat you (God?) Because the Ave Maria seems like its a lullaby to get her to sleep, but twisted... Dont want to speculate on whether its his baby sister but ...

08-04-2005, 06:40 PM	#8
unspokenanswer Blue Eyed Eskimo Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York, U.S.A. Posts: 114	Wow, I guess I never really thought about Baby Sister like that. If you think the way I did; about the Zhen Buddhism thing, it would make complete sense. Which, in light of what Blackcanvas wrote, makes the song a lot more complicated. I always interpreted Baby Sister as him speaking out against child abuse. Kind of satirizing it; though I like the "against Christianity" a lot better. Hmm, good thought. But if it is against Christianity, how do we explain the other references to the Bible and Christian thought which we've already established frequent his songs? ...just thinking...

12-23-2005, 06:03 PM	#9
Iwasatabarwiththis,lady i got years.............. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East London Posts: 251	thought 2 days before the big one may be an appropriate time to drag this up. I heard a saviour of mankind was born or something like that, im not speculating. Incedently, is damien catholic? Last edited by Iwasatabarwiththis,lady; 12-23-2005 at 06:28 PM.

12-24-2005, 12:53 AM	#10
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	Most of Ireland in the 70's had Catholicism drilled into them at school and all over daily life, being raised Catholic isn't something you could have escaped from them at the time. It would be a real novelty to find someone who grew up in a secular environment in 70's Ireland. He's spoken about it at shows before playing Me, My Yoke And I, but it's usually the same old story for most people so it's not worth going into detail over. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

12-24-2005, 04:45 PM	#12
Penny Lane Eskimo Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 48	wow I've never heard baby sister.....anyone willing to send it to me?

12-24-2005, 05:07 PM	#13
Profandy Having an eskimoment Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 91	Hi Penny, I can send you a copy if you Email me (strummeister@gmail.com), can't remember where I got it but its labelled 'live'. The religion thing - just my opinion but I think cold water's obviously about religion and death. Not sure about Baby Sister, I would go with Wheels on that one - but I don't know the film. Anyone know it?