Damien and Ray

shyatt3 · 03-04-2007, 03:59 PM

That was quite nice to see. Was Damo playing a Martin? That was very unusual looking.

Nine · 03-04-2007, 04:12 PM

that was..... odd.

I liked it, but I felt I would have been more impressed had they done a different song. Not that it isn't a good song, I just think others would have suited them together better.

It was great seeing them together though. Damien seemed to adjust his voice, don't you think? He was definately singing in a different style to what he normally does. Twas quite pleasent.

I'd love to hear more from those two together. Bring on a Damien and Ray gig.

Spamlet · 03-04-2007, 04:13 PM

Is it just me or does almost everything mountain man plays start off sounding like he's about to do "Trouble"? Dude, there are other strum patterns and tempos!

Shy- hmm, possibly but I couldn't see the telltale emblem on the headstock.

Gotta say though Ray looks more and more homeless everyday. He could've co-starred in the "9 Crimes" vid with this lil' ensemble.

That splitscreen at the end was not only le fromage fantastique but also made it look like they were singin' about each other.

That'd be one grungey man-wich, eh?

Nine · 03-04-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spamlet

That splitscreen at the end was not only le fromage fantastique but also made it look like they were singin' about each other.

That'd be one grungey man-wich, eh?

LaurenM · 03-04-2007, 04:42 PM

In my opinion, Rays songs all sound extremely similar and his voice has a limited range. I agree with Spamlet, the guitar always sounds really similar to Trouble.

haha what is with these boys pretending to be homeless? Ray reminded me of Damien's ensemble at the Nobel Peace Prize....at least Damien actually looks attractive with a beard, something I don't think Ray has quite yet achieved.

anyway, I didn't really like it. probably because I'm not a huge Ray fan, and I don't like him having lead vocals while Damien's on back up vocals, it really should be the other way around.

GoodCatGoneBad · 03-04-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LaurenBledsoe

In my opinion, Rays songs all sound extremely similar and his voice has a limited range. I agree with Spamlet, the guitar always sounds really similar to Trouble.

If you guys are not Ray fans, how many songs of his have you heard to compare?

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Ray reminded me of Damien's ensemble at the Nobel Peace Prize....at least Damien actually looks attractive with a beard, something I don't think Ray has quite yet achieved.

really? I think he looks quite attractive with his beard

To each his own I guess

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anyway, I didn't really like it. probably because I'm not a huge Ray fan, and I don't like him having lead vocals while Damien's on back up vocals, it really should be the other way around.

I haven't seen the video yet, but I have heard it is "To Love Somebody" (correct me if I am wrong), which is a BeeGees tune Ray has been covering all tour...which would make sense that he has the lead vocals, on this song at least

Ray LaMontagne "To Love Somebody"

ZachC · 03-04-2007, 04:59 PM

i think ray is a great singer songwriter and maybe they do all sound like trouble but its the lyrics that get me ... i think its awesome to see them together ... and now that you think he looks handsome with his beard makes me glad i have mine!!!

paulbaptiste · 03-04-2007, 05:09 PM

ray is an amazing songwriter and i'm still hoping to see them tour together. I didn't like ray the first time i heard his album, actually i still don't really like the albums, but his live performance is something to be reckoned with. If you haven't heard him live you need to, i don't know what shows are up on etree right now but there are a couple and those who are unsure of him should check em out.

GoodCatGoneBad · 03-04-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachC

and now that you think he looks handsome with his beard makes me glad i have mine!!!

Some guys can just rock the beards!!! If ya got it, flaunt it

I know many girls on this forum will think I am crazy for saying this, but I find Ray ten times more attractive than Brad Pitt types....I think it is because I am drawn to his talent and his shy demeanor...there doesn't seem to be a pretentious bone in his body...I love guys who have got obvious talent but don't think they are god's gift to man....this, makes him irresistible in my opinion

StatQuo · 03-04-2007, 05:37 PM

Loved the vid. Damien being my nr1 and ray being nr2. It's lovely to see my favorite performers together. Odd song, but nice to hear.

I disagree on the fact that ray always sounds the same, his first and second LP are like night and day.

carvinC980t_kid · 03-04-2007, 05:38 PM

rays style may not be very versitale... but i have to say that i feel his singing was a good amount better then damos on that song.

glad i got to hear that song though i enjoyed it a lot!

shyatt3 · 03-04-2007, 05:48 PM

Ray has got the soul, that's for sure. I still prefer Damien's voice. There did seem something a bit awkward about that, cannot quite put my finger on it. And that guitar does look very Martin-esque to me, though I can't see for sure.

verenita · 03-04-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodCatGoneBad

Some guys can just rock the beards!!! If ya got it, flaunt it

I know many girls on this forum will think I am crazy for saying this, but I find Ray ten times more attractive than Brad Pitt types....I think it is because I am drawn to his talent and his shy demeanor...there doesn't seem to be a pretentious bone in his body...I love guys who have got obvious talent but don't think they are god's gift to man....this, makes him irresistible in my opinion

altough i don´t know anything about ray (i´ve never heard his songs), i´m with you... specially the last part.

verenita

Nine · 03-04-2007, 06:10 PM

i definately think ray's vocal in this performance was better than damien's.

I also agree that a lot of Ray's material sounds similar to his other material, but I don't think that's any bad thing. A great deal of Damien's songs are very similar to his others, particularly in chord progressions. I have no problem with it - why shouldn't it be similar?

I'm just disappointed that the performance wasn't what I had expected, I think they could do a lot better together with more time etc. Even Damien's guitar playing looked awkward during this performance.

x

peterj · 03-04-2007, 06:36 PM

i like it alot. and yea it did seem like damien changed his voice a tiny bit but i thought those two together make a great team...very good vid.

Valentino · 03-04-2007, 06:49 PM

To be honest, I'm not a Ray fan at all. I agree with Spamlet about the whole "Trouble" chord progression thing but this only applies to the few songs I've heard. And that's all it takes for me to make a decision. I don't think it's necessary to sit down and listen to every song and then decide whether they all sound the same or not cuz if the first few songs don't grab you, there's no need to proceed. Take it as you will but this video was very awkward for me, especially when they placed each of them singing side by side. Creepy.

Rai · 03-04-2007, 07:15 PM

Well... First of all, beards are one of the best things on this Earth, I'm glad to own one

Secondly, its a rather good cover, I think, not a special one though. And I also think that the split screen part is a wee bit strange, a self-obsessed two-headed monster

julia · 03-04-2007, 08:04 PM

I enjoyed that very much. Thanks Emmett..

God some of you guy's are so hard on Damien.. oy!
He sounded perfectly lovely to me.. He wasn't trying to out sing Ray or anything, he was just harmonizing....deferring to him in a way in the chorus .. Nothing wrong with that..
The split screen was fine, I didn't find anything creepy about it...
I have to say I really HATE it when people compare Damien and Ray, they could not be more different, it just seems really silly to me....

I should add that in my mind Damien is in a league of his own>>

Rai my husband is from Budapest too...
cheers...

abumchuck · 03-04-2007, 08:26 PM

I thought it was really good, although the split screen was a little creepy. The reason Ray had the lead vocals is because he has a much deeper voice and is most likely not capable of singing the higher, harmonized, pitch damo sings the chorus in in my opinion. I thought their voices really went well together.

Is there any chance anyone might have an audio of this they would be willing to share? thanks!

carvinC980t_kid · 03-04-2007, 08:32 PM

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I have to say I really HATE it when people compare Damien and Ray, they could not be more different, it just seems really silly to me....
cheers...

it isn't really comparing the two musical styles together.. it was just saying damiens vocals were off. not comparing them neccessarly.

no one is saying ray is a better singer... just that damo seemed to be off a wee bit on that show

SisterMidnight · 03-04-2007, 09:08 PM

i'm still trying to figure out why anyone would cover the bee gees...

Nine · 03-04-2007, 09:12 PM

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i'm still trying to figure out why anyone would cover the bee gees...

hey man, steps were the sh*t.

*choke*

carvinC980t_kid · 03-04-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

i'm still trying to figure out why anyone would cover the bee gees...

hahahaha

that was my first though... right when i saw it was the bee gees before i listened i was like "wtf... this can't actually be good... can it?"

SisterMidnight · 03-04-2007, 09:20 PM

ah good, it's not just me then

it's not a bad song i guess, but i wouldn't have thought of it being covered.. ray's okay, but i prefer damien's voice (and overall in general)

i'm all curious about the guitar now..

mickey13086 · 03-04-2007, 09:26 PM

well I got over the initial reaction of "wow these two together...awesome." with that being said, i like ray but damien is my elvis. But..I know damien wasn't trying to steal the show and ray has been singing it on tour, but damien seemed really off singing the verse and his guitar playing seemed off, or at least them together.

with that being said, I wish they would have made a better decision of something to play, although it gets better as the song goes on i think. If you were to turn this on and not know who either of these guys were, you would probably think they are lovers... and you would think Ray is a superior singing/performer, when in fact, I just don't believe that is true at all. That's the only problem I have as a Damien Rice fan.

Minihane · 03-04-2007, 09:27 PM

I think it works. I agree with julia there is no point in comparing them they r totally different.

carvinC980t_kid · 03-04-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

ah good, it's not just me then

it's not a bad song i guess, but i wouldn't have thought of it being covered.. ray's okay, but i prefer damien's voice (and overall in general)

i'm all curious about the guitar now..

maybe it was a loner... or he was just looking for a different tone by trying out different wood combinations.

SisterMidnight · 03-04-2007, 09:47 PM

or maybe he bought himself a new guitar! that's kind of shocking to think about.. i hope he never retires the lowden

Nine · 03-04-2007, 09:51 PM

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or maybe he bought himself a new guitar! that's kind of shocking to think about.. i hope he never retires the lowden

noooooooooooooooooooooo

peterj · 03-04-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by abumchuck

I thought it was really good, although the split screen was a little creepy.

definitely, it made it look like they were singing to each other.

03-04-2007, 03:59 PM	#1
shyatt3 Eskimo Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 471	Damien and Ray That was quite nice to see. Was Damo playing a Martin? That was very unusual looking.

03-04-2007, 04:13 PM	#3
Spamlet Resident Contrarian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunnyside, Queens: NYC Posts: 1,251	Is it just me or does almost everything mountain man plays start off sounding like he's about to do "Trouble"? Dude, there are other strum patterns and tempos! Shy- hmm, possibly but I couldn't see the telltale emblem on the headstock. Gotta say though Ray looks more and more homeless everyday. He could've co-starred in the "9 Crimes" vid with this lil' ensemble. That splitscreen at the end was not only le fromage fantastique but also made it look like they were singin' about each other. That'd be one grungey man-wich, eh? __________________ NEW TUNES ARE NOW UP! Please check out these free songs by "America's female Damien Rice": http://www.reverbnation.cim/summerrussell/songs Last edited by Spamlet; 03-04-2007 at 04:18 PM.

03-04-2007, 04:42 PM	#5
LaurenM Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 709	In my opinion, Rays songs all sound extremely similar and his voice has a limited range. I agree with Spamlet, the guitar always sounds really similar to Trouble. haha what is with these boys pretending to be homeless? Ray reminded me of Damien's ensemble at the Nobel Peace Prize....at least Damien actually looks attractive with a beard, something I don't think Ray has quite yet achieved. anyway, I didn't really like it. probably because I'm not a huge Ray fan, and I don't like him having lead vocals while Damien's on back up vocals, it really should be the other way around. __________________ ...come and play http://thatgirlwiththefreckles.blogspot.com/

03-04-2007, 04:59 PM	#7
ZachC Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Asheville, NC USA Posts: 835	i think ray is a great singer songwriter and maybe they do all sound like trouble but its the lyrics that get me ... i think its awesome to see them together ... and now that you think he looks handsome with his beard makes me glad i have mine!!! __________________ Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed - alexander pope Visit me and my band at www.myspace.com/zcraftmusic

03-04-2007, 05:37 PM	#10
StatQuo You never got me right! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 296	Loved the vid. Damien being my nr1 and ray being nr2. It's lovely to see my favorite performers together. Odd song, but nice to hear. I disagree on the fact that ray always sounds the same, his first and second LP are like night and day. __________________ http://www.statquo.be Amazing Music: Frida Hyvonen: http://www.fridahyvonen.com

03-04-2007, 04:12 PM	#2
Nine Inuit Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,458	that was..... odd. I liked it, but I felt I would have been more impressed had they done a different song. Not that it isn't a good song, I just think others would have suited them together better. It was great seeing them together though. Damien seemed to adjust his voice, don't you think? He was definately singing in a different style to what he normally does. Twas quite pleasent. I'd love to hear more from those two together. Bring on a Damien and Ray gig.

03-04-2007, 05:09 PM	#8
paulbaptiste Eskimo Ninja Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 174	ray is an amazing songwriter and i'm still hoping to see them tour together. I didn't like ray the first time i heard his album, actually i still don't really like the albums, but his live performance is something to be reckoned with. If you haven't heard him live you need to, i don't know what shows are up on etree right now but there are a couple and those who are unsure of him should check em out.

03-04-2007, 05:38 PM	#11
carvinC980t_kid Eskimo Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: noblesville indiana, aka people with too much money producing ignorant children Posts: 2,662	rays style may not be very versitale... but i have to say that i feel his singing was a good amount better then damos on that song. glad i got to hear that song though i enjoyed it a lot! __________________ "And live for the moment, Lord knows I'm gon' die And when I get to hell, Lord knows I'm gon' fry" young jeezy - i luv it

03-04-2007, 05:48 PM	#12
shyatt3 Eskimo Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 471	Ray has got the soul, that's for sure. I still prefer Damien's voice. There did seem something a bit awkward about that, cannot quite put my finger on it. And that guitar does look very Martin-esque to me, though I can't see for sure.

03-04-2007, 06:10 PM	#14
Nine Inuit Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,458	i definately think ray's vocal in this performance was better than damien's. I also agree that a lot of Ray's material sounds similar to his other material, but I don't think that's any bad thing. A great deal of Damien's songs are very similar to his others, particularly in chord progressions. I have no problem with it - why shouldn't it be similar? I'm just disappointed that the performance wasn't what I had expected, I think they could do a lot better together with more time etc. Even Damien's guitar playing looked awkward during this performance. x

03-04-2007, 06:36 PM	#15
peterj eskimo friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MA Posts: 84	i like it alot. and yea it did seem like damien changed his voice a tiny bit but i thought those two together make a great team...very good vid.

03-04-2007, 06:49 PM	#16
Valentino Eskimo Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 320	What the hell was that? To be honest, I'm not a Ray fan at all. I agree with Spamlet about the whole "Trouble" chord progression thing but this only applies to the few songs I've heard. And that's all it takes for me to make a decision. I don't think it's necessary to sit down and listen to every song and then decide whether they all sound the same or not cuz if the first few songs don't grab you, there's no need to proceed. Take it as you will but this video was very awkward for me, especially when they placed each of them singing side by side. Creepy.

03-04-2007, 07:15 PM	#17
Rai Eskimontologist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Robo-Hungarian Empire Posts: 2,345	Well... First of all, beards are one of the best things on this Earth, I'm glad to own one Secondly, its a rather good cover, I think, not a special one though. And I also think that the split screen part is a wee bit strange, a self-obsessed two-headed monster __________________ "There's, another example. See, here I'm now sitting by myself, uh, er, talking to myself. That's, that's chaos." "If you find you've got a dragon charging at you at thirty miles per hour snapping its teeth you can always drive it defensively through the covers"

03-04-2007, 08:04 PM	#18
julia Eskimo Yogi.. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland Girl! Posts: 1,078	I enjoyed that very much. Thanks Emmett.. God some of you guy's are so hard on Damien.. oy! He sounded perfectly lovely to me.. He wasn't trying to out sing Ray or anything, he was just harmonizing....deferring to him in a way in the chorus .. Nothing wrong with that.. The split screen was fine, I didn't find anything creepy about it... I have to say I really HATE it when people compare Damien and Ray, they could not be more different, it just seems really silly to me.... I should add that in my mind Damien is in a league of his own>> Rai my husband is from Budapest too... cheers... __________________ "There's something magical about music and the simple fact that it's a vibration of air. It's sort of magical if you vibrate the air in a certain way, people are pleased by it." Damien Rice Last edited by julia; 03-04-2007 at 08:24 PM.

03-04-2007, 08:26 PM	#19
abumchuck Eskimo Baby Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 21	I thought it was really good, although the split screen was a little creepy. The reason Ray had the lead vocals is because he has a much deeper voice and is most likely not capable of singing the higher, harmonized, pitch damo sings the chorus in in my opinion. I thought their voices really went well together. Is there any chance anyone might have an audio of this they would be willing to share? thanks!

03-04-2007, 09:08 PM	#21
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	i'm still trying to figure out why anyone would cover the bee gees...

03-04-2007, 09:20 PM	#24
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	ah good, it's not just me then it's not a bad song i guess, but i wouldn't have thought of it being covered.. ray's okay, but i prefer damien's voice (and overall in general) i'm all curious about the guitar now..

03-04-2007, 09:26 PM	#25
mickey13086 Eskimo with a name..Chris Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Niagara Falls, NY Posts: 438	well I got over the initial reaction of "wow these two together...awesome." with that being said, i like ray but damien is my elvis. But..I know damien wasn't trying to steal the show and ray has been singing it on tour, but damien seemed really off singing the verse and his guitar playing seemed off, or at least them together. with that being said, I wish they would have made a better decision of something to play, although it gets better as the song goes on i think. If you were to turn this on and not know who either of these guys were, you would probably think they are lovers... and you would think Ray is a superior singing/performer, when in fact, I just don't believe that is true at all. That's the only problem I have as a Damien Rice fan. __________________ ...won't you my love... MySpace

03-04-2007, 09:27 PM	#26
Minihane Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: A rebel exiled in birmingham Posts: 111	I think it works. I agree with julia there is no point in comparing them they r totally different.

03-04-2007, 09:47 PM	#28
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	or maybe he bought himself a new guitar! that's kind of shocking to think about.. i hope he never retires the lowden