'9 Crimes' video

Wheels · 09-28-2006, 10:13 PM

Do you think there will be one? What do you imagine it would look like?

Bumpman · 09-28-2006, 10:20 PM

I was never a big fan of videos, It's not anything to do with the music or anything, it's just that three or four minutes is a pretty challenging window to have to adequately convey something. It's the sort of thing that's just incredible when it's done right. It's just so rare to find a good one though. I couldn't see there being a video for '9 Crimes' because it's the first single, which is traditionally used as more of a testing ground for the album, the next single will probably get a video... Whatever it is.

I could imagine it pretty much being based in performance though, they've pretty much steadily relied on that thus far. They'd probably just think up of a different way to shoot it or something.

Wheels · 09-29-2006, 10:18 AM

The Blower's Daughter / Closer video wasn't based on performance...

Bumpman · 09-29-2006, 12:51 PM

Well Damien and Lisa were standing there singing the song, I realise that it wasn't based in performance, but seems to be some kind of fallback for them. The best music video's are the ones that can adequately represent something in a four minute space, and coming up with that kind of artistic concept is a difficult thing. It's value lies in the ability to let the film speak for the music instead of just supplementing it with imagery, which is what Damien's done so far... and that's fine, it's just not as artistically grounded as the music he produces.

Wheels · 09-29-2006, 02:49 PM

Yeah, I agree. I love the new Outkast video (Idlewild Blue). So let's design Damien an artistically pleasing video for '9 Crimes' then...

Wheels · 09-29-2006, 02:55 PM

How about the idea being someone who has just lost the love of their life to death... and taking comfort in the arms of someone else... and the guilt they feel about it.

So a very dark, slow, dreamy video... slow panning past photos of the couple... Lisa or Damien (maybe have to have two stories?) lying in bed with the 'someone new' just after sex. The 'someone new' asleep, Damien/Lisa awake and singing. Also need some way of showing that their love had just died... maybe a wreath or something? All set in a cheap hotel room in a big city, neon lights flashing through the windows...

Wheels · 09-29-2006, 02:58 PM

oooh, an addition.

It's Damien in bed with Lisa...

One of them has lost a love to death... the other's love is maybe in a coma or in prison, or somehow cut off from them. So they are BOTH taking comfort in the arms of another and each lying (back to back) racked with guilt.

Adelaide · 09-30-2006, 03:30 AM

if there is to be one, really, anything as simple as the blower's daughter video would suit my tastes better I think. I actually adore that video -- I think it's just enough.

Wheels · 09-30-2006, 12:51 PM

The one with the beach? I don't like it...

worrynot,thisismyonlypost · 09-30-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheels

The one with the beach? I don't like it...

I'm with you Wheels. Cliche ridden mess really.

The Cannonball video is the better video. Artistic and original.

Does anyone know what Damien means at the end of that video, and who that American guy is when he says "the battery just died"?

Bumpman · 09-30-2006, 02:57 PM

I have no idea, I would say that it is the only video that they seem to have put any effort into. The video for The Blower's Daughter is complete piss. There's just no conceptual effort in it... It's a pity.

Miss Pink · 09-30-2006, 08:34 PM

the origional video of the lovers on the sofe..much like 1st day of my life by bright eyes is far more magical and artistic

droovin · 09-30-2006, 08:45 PM

i agree that videos are only truly good when they're done properly. i like music videos, don't get me wrong, but some times if i watch a video a lot, it will put me off listening to the song if that makes sense? like, i can love a song so much, but if i watch the video too many times, i find myself just skipping over it and not wanting to listen to it for a while. it's hard to make every video perfect, but a video like the Cannonball video would be great. doesn't even need to be like that, just a cross between artsy and performance. something very stripped down would work i think. just damien, lisa, and a piano in a room, singing at/with each other, but at opposite ends of the room. that would be cool i guess

Adelaide · 10-01-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by worrynot,thisismyonlypost

I'm with you Wheels. Cliche ridden mess really.

The Cannonball video is the better video. Artistic and original.

Does anyone know what Damien means at the end of that video, and who that American guy is when he says "the battery just died"?

see i think the cliche works out fine. lol.

what now? i don't remember seeing/hearing that part. I guess I'll go watch it again.

tj · 10-01-2006, 11:59 PM

Screw this whole it has to be arty idea... that idea applies to every songwriter in the book and is riddled with pretense if you ask me.

I'd rather have something individual...

I'm aware saying something shouldn't exactly be arty but individual is a little contradictory... cause individuality in itself is art... but I don't mean arty in the way some people out there use it these days... I dunno about you guys.

dandylittledreamer · 10-04-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Pink

the origional video of the lovers on the sofe..much like 1st day of my life by bright eyes is far more magical and artistic

I have never seen that ... anyplace I could find it? please?

worrynot,thisismyonlypost · 10-04-2006, 06:35 PM

Dont thank me, thank damienrice.com

SisterMidnight · 10-05-2006, 04:02 AM

thanks, i've been wanting to see that one for a long time

Loveless · 10-05-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SisterMidnight

thanks, i've been wanting to see that one for a long time

I uploaded that

auhsor · 10-05-2006, 02:53 PM

Thanks for that

, now I just have to wait for YouTube to come back online so I can watch it... Which reminds me, I should upload that video of The Blowers Daughter that doesn't have the film clips from Closer to YouTube. Last time I checked, it wasn't up there, and it's a much better version I think.

SisterMidnight · 10-06-2006, 01:18 AM

yeah you should josh, i remember seeing that version when you shared it before and it's much better!

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Originally Posted by Loveless

I uploaded that

so you did..

thank you brendan

auhsor · 10-06-2006, 02:04 PM

Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ThuXEDvCZk

Cali · 10-06-2006, 04:58 PM

thank you doll

filledanse · 10-06-2006, 06:14 PM

that just a wee bit o guernica there cali?

Cali · 10-06-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by filledanse

that just a wee bit o guernica there cali?

yup. it's my favorite bit, the dismembered arm of the dead soldier holding on to a broken sword that gives birth to a flower. it makes me cry

SisterMidnight · 10-07-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by auhsor

Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ThuXEDvCZk

beautiful! thanks for sharing that, it's so much better without the movie clips

why don't people like this video? i love the light and the wind blowing lisa's hair in all crazy ways and the ocean waves..

and the close ups of damien's face are really intimate i think, he's not in shadows like in the cannonball video (though actually i kind of liked that effect)

Wheels · 11-06-2006, 12:27 PM

Well it seems we will be getting a video... probably for '9 Crimes'. McMoe reported this from the Norway radio session.

[quote=McMoe]Damien also told us that he was very tired after spending the last 3 days awake due to shooting a music video in London. Apparently, he had purposely done so to get into the "mood" of the video..QUOTE]

SisterMidnight · 11-09-2006, 12:17 AM

yeah he said in the radio show from oslo that he plays a homeless/street person in the video for 9 crimes..

i'm looking forward to seeing that!

VolcanoesMeltUDown · 11-09-2006, 12:50 AM

I actually like the video for the Blower's Daughter because it shows such an intimate close up of his face and he just looks very good in it.

VolcanoesMeltUDown · 11-09-2006, 12:51 AM

Oh..and it was probably one of those low-budget start out videos anyway.

09-28-2006, 10:13 PM	#1
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	'9 Crimes' video Do you think there will be one? What do you imagine it would look like? __________________

09-28-2006, 10:20 PM	#2
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	I was never a big fan of videos, It's not anything to do with the music or anything, it's just that three or four minutes is a pretty challenging window to have to adequately convey something. It's the sort of thing that's just incredible when it's done right. It's just so rare to find a good one though. I couldn't see there being a video for '9 Crimes' because it's the first single, which is traditionally used as more of a testing ground for the album, the next single will probably get a video... Whatever it is. I could imagine it pretty much being based in performance though, they've pretty much steadily relied on that thus far. They'd probably just think up of a different way to shoot it or something. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

09-29-2006, 10:18 AM	#3
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	The Blower's Daughter / Closer video wasn't based on performance... __________________

09-29-2006, 12:51 PM	#4
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	Well Damien and Lisa were standing there singing the song, I realise that it wasn't based in performance, but seems to be some kind of fallback for them. The best music video's are the ones that can adequately represent something in a four minute space, and coming up with that kind of artistic concept is a difficult thing. It's value lies in the ability to let the film speak for the music instead of just supplementing it with imagery, which is what Damien's done so far... and that's fine, it's just not as artistically grounded as the music he produces. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

09-29-2006, 02:49 PM	#5
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Yeah, I agree. I love the new Outkast video (Idlewild Blue). So let's design Damien an artistically pleasing video for '9 Crimes' then... __________________

09-29-2006, 02:55 PM	#6
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	How about the idea being someone who has just lost the love of their life to death... and taking comfort in the arms of someone else... and the guilt they feel about it. So a very dark, slow, dreamy video... slow panning past photos of the couple... Lisa or Damien (maybe have to have two stories?) lying in bed with the 'someone new' just after sex. The 'someone new' asleep, Damien/Lisa awake and singing. Also need some way of showing that their love had just died... maybe a wreath or something? All set in a cheap hotel room in a big city, neon lights flashing through the windows... __________________

09-29-2006, 02:58 PM	#7
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	oooh, an addition. It's Damien in bed with Lisa... One of them has lost a love to death... the other's love is maybe in a coma or in prison, or somehow cut off from them. So they are BOTH taking comfort in the arms of another and each lying (back to back) racked with guilt. __________________

09-30-2006, 03:30 AM	#8
Adelaide Eskimo Princess Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 216	if there is to be one, really, anything as simple as the blower's daughter video would suit my tastes better I think. I actually adore that video -- I think it's just enough.

09-30-2006, 12:51 PM	#9
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	The one with the beach? I don't like it... __________________

09-30-2006, 02:57 PM	#11
Bumpman ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,801	I have no idea, I would say that it is the only video that they seem to have put any effort into. The video for The Blower's Daughter is complete piss. There's just no conceptual effort in it... It's a pity. __________________ Mic Christopher Is Great

09-30-2006, 08:34 PM	#12
Miss Pink Eskimo Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,327	the origional video of the lovers on the sofe..much like 1st day of my life by bright eyes is far more magical and artistic __________________ We don't crave what hurts... we hurt when we hope for something and it turns out to not be what we wanted...the pain is often our hope breaking... not our hearts.

09-30-2006, 08:45 PM	#13
droovin A Hoi-Hoi Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Wales Posts: 77	i agree that videos are only truly good when they're done properly. i like music videos, don't get me wrong, but some times if i watch a video a lot, it will put me off listening to the song if that makes sense? like, i can love a song so much, but if i watch the video too many times, i find myself just skipping over it and not wanting to listen to it for a while. it's hard to make every video perfect, but a video like the Cannonball video would be great. doesn't even need to be like that, just a cross between artsy and performance. something very stripped down would work i think. just damien, lisa, and a piano in a room, singing at/with each other, but at opposite ends of the room. that would be cool i guess __________________ Me My Band My Usual Hangout

10-01-2006, 11:59 PM	#15
tj Phono Vox Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 828	Screw this whole it has to be arty idea... that idea applies to every songwriter in the book and is riddled with pretense if you ask me. I'd rather have something individual... I'm aware saying something shouldn't exactly be arty but individual is a little contradictory... cause individuality in itself is art... but I don't mean arty in the way some people out there use it these days... I dunno about you guys. __________________ a goldfish only has a three second memory..that means if it takes a goldfish three seconds to swim around a bowl, everything is new...each time two goldfish meet it's like it's the first time..

10-04-2006, 06:35 PM	#17
worrynot,thisismyonlypost Eskimo Friend Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 47	Dont thank me, thank damienrice.com

10-05-2006, 04:02 AM	#18
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	thanks, i've been wanting to see that one for a long time

10-05-2006, 02:53 PM	#20
auhsor Friend of Eskimos Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 223	Thanks for that , now I just have to wait for YouTube to come back online so I can watch it... Which reminds me, I should upload that video of The Blowers Daughter that doesn't have the film clips from Closer to YouTube. Last time I checked, it wasn't up there, and it's a much better version I think. __________________

10-06-2006, 02:04 PM	#22
auhsor Friend of Eskimos Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 223	Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ThuXEDvCZk __________________

10-06-2006, 04:58 PM	#23
Cali Vegetable Eskimo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A room of musical tunes Posts: 5,158	thank you doll __________________ Scrubs Ted and Kate Micucci Screw You (full song) __________________________________ note: my name is NOT short for California

10-06-2006, 06:14 PM	#24
filledanse Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	that just a wee bit o guernica there cali?

11-06-2006, 12:27 PM	#27
Wheels Eskimo Enigma Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Cork Posts: 7,900	Well it seems we will be getting a video... probably for '9 Crimes'. McMoe reported this from the Norway radio session. [quote=McMoe]Damien also told us that he was very tired after spending the last 3 days awake due to shooting a music video in London. Apparently, he had purposely done so to get into the "mood" of the video..QUOTE] __________________

11-09-2006, 12:17 AM	#28
SisterMidnight Jellyfishsting Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Is this heaven? Posts: 5,500	yeah he said in the radio show from oslo that he plays a homeless/street person in the video for 9 crimes.. i'm looking forward to seeing that!

11-09-2006, 12:50 AM	#29
VolcanoesMeltUDown Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 91	I actually like the video for the Blower's Daughter because it shows such an intimate close up of his face and he just looks very good in it.

11-09-2006, 12:51 AM	#30
VolcanoesMeltUDown Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 91	Oh..and it was probably one of those low-budget start out videos anyway.