The power of orange knickers - Meaning??

Patricia · 01-17-2005, 10:05 PM

Any theory abt the meaning of the song?

I would have one... I just need someone living in the USA to tell me what colour the paper knickers you wear at hospitals is??

Patricia · 01-17-2005, 10:10 PM

Argh... They are not orange!

My theory is useless now...

ali* · 01-17-2005, 10:11 PM

is they saying kiss or kids??

Patricia · 01-17-2005, 10:12 PM

Hmmm, interesting, that would fit with my theory!

ali* · 01-17-2005, 10:13 PM

how interesting! what does anyone else think?

Tomarse · 01-17-2005, 10:40 PM

It's about Tori's pubes I reckon. [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

dizzy cannon · 01-17-2005, 10:41 PM

paper knickers??? are they scrubs??? i think they are blue or maybe burgandy in hospitals im not sure

Patricia · 01-17-2005, 10:42 PM

[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]Pffffffffffffffffff

I think it's much more serious than this!

But thank you for sharing your view, Mister Tomarse [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

Suede · 01-18-2005, 04:32 AM

lol...It's not about hospital scrubs. You guys are silly.

The song is about terrorism. And not necessarilyworld wide terrorism. It's more about personal invasion of space and privacy. Don't take what Tori says too literally. She speaks in riddle. Take a looksy...

"I've just finished a song on my new album called 'The Power Of Orange Knickers' and the word that came up was 'terrorist'. Tricky one! What rhymes with 'terrorist'? Assonance is your best friend here. I thought about how people are using that word right now - whether it's people who run kingdoms or are killing people, or both. Maybe it could mean domestic terrorism, somebody you let in your house or your room or your body - invasion! Then I put the word 'kiss' in there to create a paradox as it's the furthest thing from 'terrorist'. I've always been a John Lennon person. My husband is a Paul McCartney person but I love a twist in the story. I love the tension of opposites. I love dancing with the devil - but the devil's a dictionary, not a dick!" [Word (UK) - February 2005]

I don't much like to interpret Tori's lyrics with others because Tori's lyrics will always mean something totally different for everyone. But...I thought you might want a little help getting started on your own theory. And remember...don't take her too literally.Edited by: Suede

Patricia · 01-18-2005, 07:58 AM

Oh wow, thank you for that, Suede!

My theory was a bit different... Well I'm obviously wrong, but I thought Tori was singing about abortion. [img]smileys/smiley9.gif[/img]I know, sounds strange, but...

am I alone in this... the pill in the hand...a matter of complication... the girls that smile kindly then rip your life to pieces (nurses?)... And then she could be saying "kids" instead of "kiss"!

Ahem, well that was my feeling.

Beautiful anyway.

Suede · 01-19-2005, 04:49 AM

lol. We all have our own thoughts and that's what I love. But she's not saying kids. She is saying kiss.

I think it's just a wonderful song. Listening to it right now. I think Damien sounds great with Tori. He gives it a different depth.

SilentNight · 01-19-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suede

"I've just finished a song on my new album called
'The Power Of Orange Knickers' and the word that came up was
'terrorist'. Tricky one! What rhymes with 'terrorist'? Assonance is
your best friend here. I thought about how people are using that word
right now - whether it's people who run kingdoms or are killing people,
or both. Maybe it could mean domestic terrorism, somebody you let in
your house or your room or your body - invasion! Then I put the word
'kiss' in there to create a paradox as it's the furthest thing from
'terrorist'. I've always been a John Lennon person. My husband is a
Paul McCartney person but I love a twist in the story. I love the
tension of opposites. I love dancing with the devil - but the devil's a
dictionary, not a dick!" [Word (UK) - February 2005</font>]</font>

she's trying hard to get attention. that's where i lost respect for her. this sounds like a duet with devil[img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img].

Emmett, you can take a star away from me now[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

sorry Damien[img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img], i'm gonna be quiet[img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

Edited by: SilentNight

Suede · 01-19-2005, 09:19 PM

Where in the world do you get that she's trying to get attention?

touchingfreedom · 01-21-2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suede

Where in the world do you get that she's trying to get attention?

I guess she might seem like she's trying to get attention because she likes to be provocative. [I don't think she is though]

anyway, I think the line, "the power of orange knickers beneath my petticoat" is about being rebellious in secret and that not being out on the street demonstrating does not mean you don't care; rebellion can be more subtle than that.

administrator · 01-21-2005, 08:25 PM

this is from rolling stone today:

In "The Power of Orange Knickers," a duet with Irish crooner Damien Rice, the two sing over one another, their voices mingling in the sweeping, piano-led chorus. In the song, Amos writes of sensuality and jealousy, using political metaphors to explore the politics of romantic relationships, as in the loaded lyric, "Can somebody tell me/Who is this terrorist?"

"I was curious about how people were defining what a terrorist was," Amos explains. "[I wanted to] undress the word and really crawl inside the definition of it . . . People are using it to get the masses to agree with their agendas . . . [But] it can be a little pill that you're addicted to, or a person. And sometimes, for a woman, it's another woman."

EskimoMonkey · 01-21-2005, 08:51 PM

anyone know how to convert cd tracks to a size small enough to post on the web?

cille · 01-21-2005, 08:52 PM

thanks for that

reminds me of another canadian singer/songwriter, sarah slean, who also wrote about terrorism and love recently in the song 'day one':

I put my head back
Where it belongs up there in the clouds
I’m spreading love like
a terrorist now

O what a morning
O what a day to be alive
Sweet hope is glowing
in your glorious eyes

i like their way of integrating world politics and 'personal politics', if you can say so. and also the way they both try to use the word 'terrorist' in different meanings than the popular 'good guy - bad guy' terms. yay for artists painting colors back into black-white pictures![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

cille · 01-21-2005, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EskimoMonkey

anyone know how to convert cd tracks to a size small enough to post on the web?

you need some sort of converter. there are several good free ones available. i use dBpowerAMP music converter - free for download with loads of codecs (for different file types) here

Donsie B! · 01-22-2005, 07:12 PM

theres like 5 threads 4 this 1 song that damo sings on so imagine wat happens when damo's nu albums out!

mestonf · 01-23-2005, 12:14 AM

thats very true donsie
i have always wondered that
i reckon the board will go mad when it comes it [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

01-17-2005, 10:05 PM	#1
Patricia Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,213	Any theory abt the meaning of the song? I would have one... I just need someone living in the USA to tell me what colour the paper knickers you wear at hospitals is?? __________________ "To do is to be" - Nietzsche "To be is to do" - Kant "Do be do be do" - Sinatra

01-17-2005, 10:10 PM	#2
Patricia Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,213	Argh... They are not orange! My theory is useless now... __________________ "To do is to be" - Nietzsche "To be is to do" - Kant "Do be do be do" - Sinatra

01-17-2005, 10:11 PM	#3
ali* eskimo drama queen Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,399	is they saying kiss or kids?? __________________ Ah Christ I'm such a Drama Queen....

01-17-2005, 10:12 PM	#4
Patricia Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,213	Hmmm, interesting, that would fit with my theory! __________________ "To do is to be" - Nietzsche "To be is to do" - Kant "Do be do be do" - Sinatra

01-17-2005, 10:13 PM	#5
ali* eskimo drama queen Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,399	how interesting! what does anyone else think? __________________ Ah Christ I'm such a Drama Queen....

01-17-2005, 10:40 PM	#6
Tomarse Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 388	It's about Tori's pubes I reckon. [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img] __________________ If I was all the colours, I'd paint you pretty in gold.

01-17-2005, 10:41 PM	#7
dizzy cannon senseless eskimo Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: south jersey, usa Posts: 796	paper knickers??? are they scrubs??? i think they are blue or maybe burgandy in hospitals im not sure __________________ "You're still reaching for the moon." "No, father. The moon's reaching for me!" myspace

01-17-2005, 10:42 PM	#8
Patricia Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,213	[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]Pffffffffffffffffff I think it's much more serious than this! But thank you for sharing your view, Mister Tomarse [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img] __________________ "To do is to be" - Nietzsche "To be is to do" - Kant "Do be do be do" - Sinatra

01-18-2005, 04:32 AM	#9
Suede Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: United States Posts: 127	lol...It's not about hospital scrubs. You guys are silly. The song is about terrorism. And not necessarilyworld wide terrorism. It's more about personal invasion of space and privacy. Don't take what Tori says too literally. She speaks in riddle. Take a looksy... "I've just finished a song on my new album called 'The Power Of Orange Knickers' and the word that came up was 'terrorist'. Tricky one! What rhymes with 'terrorist'? Assonance is your best friend here. I thought about how people are using that word right now - whether it's people who run kingdoms or are killing people, or both. Maybe it could mean domestic terrorism, somebody you let in your house or your room or your body - invasion! Then I put the word 'kiss' in there to create a paradox as it's the furthest thing from 'terrorist'. I've always been a John Lennon person. My husband is a Paul McCartney person but I love a twist in the story. I love the tension of opposites. I love dancing with the devil - but the devil's a dictionary, not a dick!" [Word (UK) - February 2005] I don't much like to interpret Tori's lyrics with others because Tori's lyrics will always mean something totally different for everyone. But...I thought you might want a little help getting started on your own theory. And remember...don't take her too literally.Edited by: Suede

01-18-2005, 07:58 AM	#10
Patricia Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,213	Oh wow, thank you for that, Suede! My theory was a bit different... Well I'm obviously wrong, but I thought Tori was singing about abortion. [img]smileys/smiley9.gif[/img]I know, sounds strange, but... am I alone in this... the pill in the hand...a matter of complication... the girls that smile kindly then rip your life to pieces (nurses?)... And then she could be saying "kids" instead of "kiss"! Ahem, well that was my feeling. Beautiful anyway. __________________ "To do is to be" - Nietzsche "To be is to do" - Kant "Do be do be do" - Sinatra

01-19-2005, 04:49 AM	#11
Suede Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: United States Posts: 127	lol. We all have our own thoughts and that's what I love. But she's not saying kids. She is saying kiss. I think it's just a wonderful song. Listening to it right now. I think Damien sounds great with Tori. He gives it a different depth.

01-19-2005, 09:19 PM	#13
Suede Eskimo Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: United States Posts: 127	Where in the world do you get that she's trying to get attention?

01-21-2005, 08:25 PM	#15
administrator forum administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,480	this is from rolling stone today: In "The Power of Orange Knickers," a duet with Irish crooner Damien Rice, the two sing over one another, their voices mingling in the sweeping, piano-led chorus. In the song, Amos writes of sensuality and jealousy, using political metaphors to explore the politics of romantic relationships, as in the loaded lyric, "Can somebody tell me/Who is this terrorist?" "I was curious about how people were defining what a terrorist was," Amos explains. "[I wanted to] undress the word and really crawl inside the definition of it . . . People are using it to get the masses to agree with their agendas . . . [But] it can be a little pill that you're addicted to, or a person. And sometimes, for a woman, it's another woman." __________________ Keep checking the news page for all the latest Damien Rice news.

01-21-2005, 08:51 PM	#16
EskimoMonkey Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 16	anyone know how to convert cd tracks to a size small enough to post on the web? __________________ Ta Robbo

01-21-2005, 08:52 PM	#17
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	thanks for that reminds me of another canadian singer/songwriter, sarah slean, who also wrote about terrorism and love recently in the song 'day one': I put my head back Where it belongs up there in the clouds I’m spreading love like a terrorist now O what a morning O what a day to be alive Sweet hope is glowing in your glorious eyes i like their way of integrating world politics and 'personal politics', if you can say so. and also the way they both try to use the word 'terrorist' in different meanings than the popular 'good guy - bad guy' terms. yay for artists painting colors back into black-white pictures![img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] __________________ Yeah

01-22-2005, 07:12 PM	#19
Donsie B! Eskimo Charmer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 4,098	theres like 5 threads 4 this 1 song that damo sings on so imagine wat happens when damo's nu albums out! __________________ 1 back bedroom, 2 empty beds on the floor, 3 people dancing, 4 drinks down and i just don't care, 5 in the morning, 6 stories up looking down, 7 still fighting, 8 times around but this time i wont drown! Nightrocker- The Chalets

01-23-2005, 12:14 AM	#20
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	thats very true donsie i have always wondered that i reckon the board will go mad when it comes it [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img] __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society