proper shn titling -- damo or drice??

jpeth · 12-03-2003, 12:27 PM

Not sure if this has been discussed previously, but I was wondering if Damien Rice traders had decided upon an official band abbreviation for titling Damien Rice shns.

Currently all of the Damien Rice shows I have are titled--

damoYYYY-MM-DD.shnf

However, I have recently seen a show (2003-11-05) titled--

driceYYYY-MM-DD.shnf

Based on my experience trading, I think consistencency is important to avoid confusion.

Anyone have any information or opinions on this topic?

Thanks,

Tony

dmbit · 12-03-2003, 12:36 PM

It's my fault again! I named the "drice" concert, I had no experience with Damien Rice trading so I used the Etree naming rules. I'm sorry if didn't match the standard...

jpeth · 12-03-2003, 12:52 PM

drice seems logical to me. i guess that is why i asked--i'm pretty new here too.

kermit · 12-04-2003, 07:32 AM

yet another thing I can't grasp about .shn's.

why do we need to abbreviate it. what's wrong with 'artist - track - title'format or at most 'artist - date - track - title'? I believe every OS supports long names and white spaces, right?

would'nt it be better if you knew the song you're playing w/o having to look at the .txt file?

just my 0.02$

kermit · 12-04-2003, 07:33 AM

oh, and having said that, 'drice' is better (at least that way when searching (e.g: with DC) for 'damien, rice' you'll get some hits.)

daol20 · 12-04-2003, 09:02 AM

Thats something i dont understand either. Why not name the files as the 'artist - date - track - title'? Its seems a much more efficient way to do it.

Mario · 12-04-2003, 10:20 AM

I adopted the Damo standard. I realize its not in line with etree's guidelines, but lots of bands are not in line with that. And "Damo" is the shortest indicative way. Everything on my server is edited to be "Damoyyyy-mm-dd" and as soon as the site is up (definetly by the end of the year) I'm going to get in touch with Etree to make it official.

One reason everything isn't spelled out is that it makes md5 files much more complicated. Additionally, lots of recordings get mislabel songs. So you'd have tracks floating around with the wrong titles.

jpeth · 12-04-2003, 12:59 PM

why do we need to abbreviate it. what's wrong with 'artist - track - title'Êformat or at most 'artist - date - track - title'? I believe every OS supports long names and white spaces, right?
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Hey kermit,

no. this is not right. although it works with mp3 files, it isnt good for shns. shorten for mac os will truncate long file names when converting them to .aiff or .wav. when people name shns as you are suggesting, i always have to rename then before converting them to .aiff or .wav files.

at this point I think keeping damo rather drice is the best bet for consistency.

12-04-2003, 07:32 AM	#4
kermit Eskimo Friend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel Posts: 78	yet another thing I can't grasp about .shn's. why do we need to abbreviate it. what's wrong with 'artist - track - title'format or at most 'artist - date - track - title'? I believe every OS supports long names and white spaces, right? would'nt it be better if you knew the song you're playing w/o having to look at the .txt file? just my 0.02$ __________________ Cheers Darlin'

12-04-2003, 07:33 AM	#5
kermit Eskimo Friend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel Posts: 78	oh, and having said that, 'drice' is better (at least that way when searching (e.g: with DC) for 'damien, rice' you'll get some hits.) __________________ Cheers Darlin'

12-04-2003, 09:02 AM	#6
daol20 Eskimo irRegular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Yemen Posts: 2,091	Thats something i dont understand either. Why not name the files as the 'artist - date - track - title'? Its seems a much more efficient way to do it. __________________ You leave me here bereaving from the words so hard and plain Saying the love that we had was just selfish and sad To see you now with him is just making me mad Oh so kiss him again just to prove to me that you can an I will stand here and burn in my skin

12-03-2003, 12:27 PM	#1
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	Not sure if this has been discussed previously, but I was wondering if Damien Rice traders had decided upon an official band abbreviation for titling Damien Rice shns. Currently all of the Damien Rice shows I have are titled-- damoYYYY-MM-DD.shnf However, I have recently seen a show (2003-11-05) titled-- driceYYYY-MM-DD.shnf Based on my experience trading, I think consistencency is important to avoid confusion. Anyone have any information or opinions on this topic? Thanks, Tony

12-03-2003, 12:36 PM	#2
dmbit Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 172	It's my fault again! I named the "drice" concert, I had no experience with Damien Rice trading so I used the Etree naming rules. I'm sorry if didn't match the standard...

12-03-2003, 12:52 PM	#3
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	drice seems logical to me. i guess that is why i asked--i'm pretty new here too.

12-04-2003, 10:20 AM	#7
Mario Eskimo Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Posts: 191	I adopted the Damo standard. I realize its not in line with etree's guidelines, but lots of bands are not in line with that. And "Damo" is the shortest indicative way. Everything on my server is edited to be "Damoyyyy-mm-dd" and as soon as the site is up (definetly by the end of the year) I'm going to get in touch with Etree to make it official. One reason everything isn't spelled out is that it makes md5 files much more complicated. Additionally, lots of recordings get mislabel songs. So you'd have tracks floating around with the wrong titles.

12-04-2003, 12:59 PM	#8
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	why do we need to abbreviate it. what's wrong with 'artist - track - title'Êformat or at most 'artist - date - track - title'? I believe every OS supports long names and white spaces, right? ------------ Hey kermit, no. this is not right. although it works with mp3 files, it isnt good for shns. shorten for mac os will truncate long file names when converting them to .aiff or .wav. when people name shns as you are suggesting, i always have to rename then before converting them to .aiff or .wav files. at this point I think keeping damo rather drice is the best bet for consistency.