Did Damien kick Lisa out of the band?

Banjaxed · 03-28-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by damienrice.com

Damien has decided that his professional relationship with Lisa Hannigan has run its creative course. As a result Lisa will not be appearing at any of the upcoming live shows.

I can't read that as anything other than Damien decided that it was time for her to leave.

cille · 03-28-2007, 01:51 PM

There are quite a few threads about this already

flash · 03-28-2007, 02:01 PM

yep. it sounds so.
and the fact that the Damien rice and remaining mates sung a memorable version of Cheers Darlin' in Paris, after a glass of wine and a cigarette?
I can not really figure out how she could have left in the middle of the tour otherwise...unless she just got crazy....
she has been with him from the start, from the very beginning, always on his side.
the reason of having left to pursue a solo career also does not sound convincing, all others member have been working at 'their own' career for years, happily without having to quit the band for that. Even young Fionn Regan managed to come out with his own album in a very short time.
Why Lisa would not have done in a similar way before????
I just listened to the boot beautifully made by Manu~ on the performance in Paris. First performance of the band without Lisa. Damien is supernatural, sounds like he has been unleashed....

anyway, as someone said in another forum, sometime is good for bands to split up...

But I considered myself very very lucky for having seen ALL band playing in Australia, was awesome. Maybe they just got unhappy as they left beautiful Oz....maybe....

flash

Accidental Baby · 03-28-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flash

and the fact that the Damien rice and remaining mates sung a memorable version of Cheers Darlin' in Paris, after a glass of wine and a cigarette?

Well he kinda does that... all the time

Apart from that, do we really need more threads about this?

LuciferSam · 03-28-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flash

yep. it sounds so.
and the fact that the Damien rice and remaining mates sung a memorable version of Cheers Darlin' in Paris, after a glass of wine and a cigarette?
I can not really figure out how she could have left in the middle of the tour otherwise...unless she just got crazy....
she has been with him from the start, from the very beginning, always on his side.
the reason of having left to pursue a solo career also does not sound convincing, all others member have been working at 'their own' career for years, happily without having to quit the band for that. Even young Fionn Regan managed to come out with his own album in a very short time.
Why Lisa would not have done in a similar way before????
I just listened to the boot beautifully made by Manu~ on the performance in Paris. First performance of the band without Lisa. Damien is supernatural, sounds like he has been unleashed....

anyway, as someone said in another forum, sometime is good for bands to split up...

But I considered myself very very lucky for having seen ALL band playing in Australia, was awesome. Maybe they just got unhappy as they left beautiful Oz....maybe....

flash

I saw the band perform without Lisa last year in California. It was absolutely not the same show, and definitely lacked the bound that Lisa provided. She's an important piece, without her - I can't say I really enjoy the band the same way. Far as I'm concerned it goes from being worth a $50 ticket to being worth a $5 ticket without her.

I wish I felt differently.

mario_d · 03-28-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjaxed

I can't read that as anything other than Damien decided that it was time for her to leave.

The way you should read it is:

Damien wants everyone to think he kicked Lisa out of the band.

Whether that's true or not cannot be determined from a press release.

Heretic At Large · 03-28-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mario_d

The way you should read it is:

Damien wants everyone to think he kicked Lisa out of the band.

Whether that's true or not cannot be determined from a press release.

Mario, you seem to be the lone voice of reason.

Delonelyman · 03-28-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mario_d

The way you should read it is:

Damien wants everyone to think he kicked Lisa out of the band.

Whether that's true or not cannot be determined from a press release.

Gatsby · 03-29-2007, 04:20 AM

mario is spot on so dunno why you're having a go at him.

if damien didnt want it to read as it did he would have tiptoed around the fact lisa has left the band and said "for personal reasons" or "other commitments"

but it reads "Damien has decided that his professional relationship with Lisa Hannigan has run its creative course. As a result Lisa will not be appearing at any of the upcoming live shows."

so it seems it was his choice on lisa leaving by the press release.

dont know why it needs discussion tho, im half excited she's gone..

Banjaxed · 03-29-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mario_d

The way you should read it is:

Damien wants everyone to think he kicked Lisa out of the band.

So your interpretation is that Damien has decided to spin this and make it look like it was his decision... that leads to a few possibilities:

1) Damien kicked lisa out of the band and is just telling it like it is.
2) Damien wants people to think that he kicked her out, but that's not exactly true.

If "2" is the case, I can think of a couple of reasons to do this...
2a) Damien is massively arrogant and wants to hide the fact that she left.
2b) Damien wants to prevent any "walking out" backlash from fans against Lisa, to avoid harming her forthcoming solo career.

Daniel · 03-29-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjaxed

2b) Damien wants to prevent any "walking out" backlash from fans against Lisa, to avoid harming her forthcoming solo career.

dont think lisa is getting any walking out backlash, which is a good thing.

mario_d · 03-29-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjaxed

So your interpretation is that Damien has decided to spin this and make it look like it was his decision... that leads to a few possibilities:

1) Damien kicked lisa out of the band and is just telling it like it is.
2) Damien wants people to think that he kicked her out, but that's not exactly true.

Spin might be a strong word, but other than that I agree with you 100% as far as what I quoted.

When you go to the next step of the analysis, as to why he wants people to believe he fired Lisa, I don't think we could ever know what that's about. But spite could be a leading candidate there, for what it's worth. I mean, to make that statement is to take a pretty big slap at Lisa.

Basically, my feeling is that if he's telling it like it is, he should've been vague about the cause to make it sound more professional. And if he's just trying to give the impression he kicked her out, he's being off the charts immature.

Lady · 03-29-2007, 05:19 PM

oh my god!

you lot could find conspiracy in "Good morning" .
stop over-analysing. weird

eudaemonia · 03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

Do I dare?

Oh hell with it, read this if you want (5th paragraph) and make up your own mind. I don't know the girl from Eve but I found it when I was searching for something else.

Honestly, sometimes too much information is just that: too much.

Rai · 03-29-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eudaemonia

Do I dare?

Oh hell with it, read this if you want (5th paragraph) and make up your own mind. I don't know the girl from Eve but I found it when I was searching for something else.

Honestly, sometimes too much information is just that: too much.

This text is a bit messed up... (hell, there are more 'love''s in it than in the extended version of I Remember) I would have preferred a less joycean text with more facts and no additional mysteries. This will only fuel the rumour commando.

I have to tell that I don't really care who kicked who or why. The only thing I'd like to know is what happened in Munich, only because it was the gig I attended and this 'leaving hours before the concert' thing is really strange.

Nine · 03-30-2007, 12:17 AM

God, I think we should all just move on and forget about all this Lisa lark. The truth is, whoever's fault it is or isn't, makes no difference to the situation, and isn't really any of our business. Whilst it's distressing, it's just something that we need to stop speculating about now, because it's all getting ridiculous and won't solve anything. We just have to let it be.

Tommy · 03-30-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine

God, I think we should all just move on and forget about all this Lisa lark. The truth is, whoever's fault it is or isn't, makes no difference to the situation, and isn't really any of our business. Whilst it's distressing, it's just something that we need to stop speculating about now, because it's all getting ridiculous and won't solve anything. We just have to let it be.

Indeed, im sure that in time a journalist will ask him about it and he'll just say "Ive always said that the band isnt fixed in stone and people can come and go" and then we can all move on. There hasnt got to be a gossipy seedy answer for every question.

03-28-2007, 01:51 PM	#2
cille creepycute Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 15,333	There are quite a few threads about this already __________________ Yeah

03-29-2007, 04:20 AM	#9
Gatsby Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,809	mario is spot on so dunno why you're having a go at him. if damien didnt want it to read as it did he would have tiptoed around the fact lisa has left the band and said "for personal reasons" or "other commitments" but it reads "Damien has decided that his professional relationship with Lisa Hannigan has run its creative course. As a result Lisa will not be appearing at any of the upcoming live shows." so it seems it was his choice on lisa leaving by the press release. dont know why it needs discussion tho, im half excited she's gone.. __________________ "Tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms further…And on fine morning - So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past." https://www.twitch.tv/simonjmusic

03-28-2007, 02:01 PM	#3
flash Eskimo Baby Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oz Posts: 3	yep. it sounds so. and the fact that the Damien rice and remaining mates sung a memorable version of Cheers Darlin' in Paris, after a glass of wine and a cigarette? I can not really figure out how she could have left in the middle of the tour otherwise...unless she just got crazy.... she has been with him from the start, from the very beginning, always on his side. the reason of having left to pursue a solo career also does not sound convincing, all others member have been working at 'their own' career for years, happily without having to quit the band for that. Even young Fionn Regan managed to come out with his own album in a very short time. Why Lisa would not have done in a similar way before???? I just listened to the boot beautifully made by Manu~ on the performance in Paris. First performance of the band without Lisa. Damien is supernatural, sounds like he has been unleashed.... anyway, as someone said in another forum, sometime is good for bands to split up... But I considered myself very very lucky for having seen ALL band playing in Australia, was awesome. Maybe they just got unhappy as they left beautiful Oz....maybe.... flash

03-29-2007, 05:19 PM	#13
Lady Eskimo Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 96	oh my god! you lot could find conspiracy in "Good morning" . stop over-analysing. weird

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM	#14
eudaemonia Eskimo Baby Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 20	Do I dare? Oh hell with it, read this if you want (5th paragraph) and make up your own mind. I don't know the girl from Eve but I found it when I was searching for something else. Honestly, sometimes too much information is just that: too much.

03-30-2007, 12:17 AM	#16
Nine Inuit Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,458	God, I think we should all just move on and forget about all this Lisa lark. The truth is, whoever's fault it is or isn't, makes no difference to the situation, and isn't really any of our business. Whilst it's distressing, it's just something that we need to stop speculating about now, because it's all getting ridiculous and won't solve anything. We just have to let it be.