New York Times & Damien’s shortcoming....

eskimo_friendly · 07-31-2004, 09:28 PM

An excerpt from the New York Times' review of B-sides:

"He still owes his fans a recording of what happens onstage, when his dynamics and distortion pedal transform songs into volatile epics of introspection."

Can I just say.............. YES, DAMIEN, YOU DO!!
Can we please have it now??

Rain · 08-01-2004, 06:26 AM

But you guys can get that when you go for his gigs, which will make them extra special. Right? [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

mojo887 · 08-01-2004, 06:56 AM

you can never capture the intensity, passion, or emotion of any artist on a cd, you always need to see them live to experience that feeling.

Jgrg1984 · 08-01-2004, 08:32 AM

and damien puts that one a whole other level compared to other artists

#Ian# · 08-01-2004, 02:40 PM

Boo to the word artist, he's a musician. Sorry, I'm just being a pedantic dick, it's a little pet hate of mine [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img].

eskimo_friendly · 08-01-2004, 02:52 PM

A live DVD + CD would be perfect.

No, it wouldn't let you capture the full intensity of the actual gig, but at least it would let you relive it to some extent. And I'm sure, as Damien Rice fans, it would make us all extremely happy.

Angela · 08-01-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by #Ian#

Boo to the word artist, he's a musician. Sorry, I'm just being a pedantic dick, it's a little pet hate of mine [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img].

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Rain · 08-01-2004, 05:13 PM

Music is art, no? [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

mestonf · 08-01-2004, 08:49 PM

i have been thinking recently that Damo understates his music ( On "O" that is). For example the album version of delicate is quite subdued to other live versions.....or volcano as such...Therefore when he is playing live he really lets his emotians go giving a wild emotian filled performance which is really cool.

Understating music is a very hard thing to do....so i think!

Rain · 08-02-2004, 03:28 AM

Yes... The thing is, while Damien "understates", as you say it, his music in O, he also maintains the same amount/quality of emotions in the album as those in his live shows.

cneill · 08-02-2004, 03:30 AM

although a live release would be great, there are some really good quality audience recordings out there. Everything I've heard taped by pnobles is excellent, others too, but pnobles just sticks out in my mind. Best of all, they're free.

I'm really yearning for a live dvd though!!!

mittens · 08-02-2004, 11:30 AM

At the last solo gig at Vicar Street (february methinks) there were notices up proclaiming that the gig was being recorded.......could tis spell a live album

And what about Live at Union Chapel. I had the privilege of being at that gig. Spectacular....but very cold!

#Ian# · 08-02-2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain

Music is art, no? [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

As is sculpture but people call people that sculpt sculptors, as is poetry but people call those that write poems poets.

mestonf · 08-02-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mittens

At the last solo gig at Vicar Street (february methinks) there were notices up proclaiming that the gig was being recorded.......could tis spell a live album

And what about Live at Union Chapel. I had the privilege of being at that gig. Spectacular....but very cold!

i think this says this at every damo gig....said it in the brixton one i went to

Dream Brother · 08-02-2004, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Ian#

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain

Music is art, no? [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

As is sculpture but people call people that sculpt sculptors, as is poetry but people call those that write poems poets.

But arent sculptors, poets, and musicians all artists?
<H3>Definition</H3>

art
noun
1 [u] the making of objects, images, music, etc. that are beautiful or that express feelings:
Can television and pop music really be considered art?
I enjoyed the ballet, but it wasn't really great art.

2 [u] the activity of painting, drawing and making sculpture:
Art and English were my best subjects at school.
an art teacher

3 [u] paintings, drawings and sculptures:
The gallery has an excellent collection of modern art.
an exhibition of Native American art
Peggy Guggenheim was one of the twentieth century's great art collectors.
The Frick is an art gallery in New York.

4 [C] an activity through which people express particular ideas:
Drama is an art that is traditionally performed in a theatre.
Do you regard film as entertainment or as an art?
She is doing a course in the performing arts.

5 [C] a skill or special ability:
the art of conversation
Getting him to go out is quite an art (= needs special skill).

artist
noun [C]
1 someone who paints, draws or makes sculptures:
Monet is one of my favourite artists.
Compare artiste.

2 someone who creates things with great skill and imagination:
He described her as one of the greatest film artists of the 20th century.

mestonf · 08-02-2004, 09:28 PM

good work my friend

think people were getting confused between art and artist

PhoenixDeviance · 08-03-2004, 02:40 AM

I would love to see Damo live but he never comes near NC

mojo887 · 08-03-2004, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixDeviance

I would love to see Damo live but he never comes near NC

ummm, he was at this years bonnaroo in tennessee! I pretty much drove all the way down there from here(jersey) to see him.

#Ian# · 08-03-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream Brother

But arent sculptors, poets, and musicians all artists?

Yes, like I said its a pet hate of mine, my dislike for it stems from he phrase "recording artist" and because people like Mariah Carey call themselves that while most proper musicians call themselves musicians.

08-01-2004, 08:32 AM	#4
Jgrg1984 Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 597	and damien puts that one a whole other level compared to other artists __________________ Discover. Believe. :and they all left their feet, for that brief moment they could fly:

08-01-2004, 02:40 PM	#5
#Ian# Destroyer of worlds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,783	Boo to the word artist, he's a musician. Sorry, I'm just being a pedantic dick, it's a little pet hate of mine [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]. __________________ One day we will die and our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see

08-01-2004, 08:49 PM	#9
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	i have been thinking recently that Damo understates his music ( On "O" that is). For example the album version of delicate is quite subdued to other live versions.....or volcano as such...Therefore when he is playing live he really lets his emotians go giving a wild emotian filled performance which is really cool. Understating music is a very hard thing to do....so i think! __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

08-02-2004, 03:30 AM	#11
cneill eskimo hobo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in limbo Posts: 739	although a live release would be great, there are some really good quality audience recordings out there. Everything I've heard taped by pnobles is excellent, others too, but pnobles just sticks out in my mind. Best of all, they're free. I'm really yearning for a live dvd though!!! __________________ Coniunctio Gaudium Scientia Est Dimidium facti qui coepit habet: sapere aude. -Horace www.myspace.com/cpneill photography!: http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=1820624

08-02-2004, 09:28 PM	#16
mestonf Eskimo Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 4,164	good work my friend think people were getting confused between art and artist __________________ Damien Rice Fan Society

07-31-2004, 09:28 PM	#1
eskimo_friendly Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 418	An excerpt from the New York Times' review of B-sides: "He still owes his fans a recording of what happens onstage, when his dynamics and distortion pedal transform songs into volatile epics of introspection." Can I just say.............. YES, DAMIEN, YOU DO!! Can we please have it now??

08-01-2004, 06:26 AM	#2
Rain Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	But you guys can get that when you go for his gigs, which will make them extra special. Right? [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

08-01-2004, 06:56 AM	#3
mojo887 Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 56	you can never capture the intensity, passion, or emotion of any artist on a cd, you always need to see them live to experience that feeling.

08-01-2004, 02:52 PM	#6
eskimo_friendly Eskimo Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 418	A live DVD + CD would be perfect. No, it wouldn't let you capture the full intensity of the actual gig, but at least it would let you relive it to some extent. And I'm sure, as Damien Rice fans, it would make us all extremely happy.

08-01-2004, 05:13 PM	#8
Rain Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	Music is art, no? [img]smileys/smiley5.gif[/img]

08-02-2004, 03:28 AM	#10
Rain Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	Yes... The thing is, while Damien "understates", as you say it, his music in O, he also maintains the same amount/quality of emotions in the album as those in his live shows.

08-02-2004, 11:30 AM	#12
mittens Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 19	At the last solo gig at Vicar Street (february methinks) there were notices up proclaiming that the gig was being recorded.......could tis spell a live album And what about Live at Union Chapel. I had the privilege of being at that gig. Spectacular....but very cold!

08-03-2004, 02:40 AM	#17
PhoenixDeviance Eskimo Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States Posts: 91	I would love to see Damo live but he never comes near NC __________________ http://www.myspace.com/christiandionne "And you, liar, teller of tall tales; you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward beak into tears, beat your breast, take your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song..." - The Last Temptation of Christ