"Camarillas" - Page 3

mario_d · 11-13-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Articulus

He's referring to someone's inner circle who won't let him near them, even though he's crashing her private parties he can't get to her.

Gee, I wonder who that could be?

InspirationDestination · 11-13-2014, 03:56 PM

It's really a rather unkind song, considering we know who it's about. It's so catchy, though. He voice sounds amazing and it really shows his range.

Damohohoh · 11-13-2014, 04:15 PM

I know! Such an unkind song, but so so catchy! The loop with the strings is simple but brilliant. Love the way he has sung the verse too!

faninor · 11-13-2014, 08:55 PM

Was this in MP3 only, or did I miss the link to download in FLAC?

Shaftell · 11-13-2014, 11:53 PM

Anyone know if this track will be available on iTunes to purchase anytime soon?

InspirationDestination · 11-14-2014, 12:10 AM

I think it was only available in the wooden box bundle. I received it via a zip file in MP3.

borneoman · 11-14-2014, 06:29 AM

mp3 only

Closer27 · 11-14-2014, 03:09 PM

Can anybody please upload it for me and send me a link? Thank you thank you thank you!

Shaftell · 11-14-2014, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by InspirationDestination

I think it was only available in the wooden box bundle. I received it via a zip file in MP3.

Hopefully he'll release it though. I want to hear it

ElephantMan · 11-19-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Closer27

Can anybody please upload it for me and send me a link? Thank you thank you thank you!

its back on utube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fvb665JqJE

faninor · 11-19-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaftell

Hopefully he'll release it though. I want to hear it

It was released, though.

Shaftell · 11-19-2014, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by faninor

It was released, though.

Oh I meant so I can buy it on iTunes

faninor · 11-19-2014, 11:30 PM

Oh! It was exclusive to the limited edition. Just like sometimes iTunes has exclusive bonus tracks.

Shahar · 11-20-2014, 02:00 AM

Am I the only one who tried to figure if it's also hidden in the cd?
I tried to play the cd back (as it works with 9), and i tried to wait after the last song (as it works at O) but it didn't come...
It would be really cool to find out in the end that it's hidden somewhere...

borneoman · 11-20-2014, 08:44 AM

it´s normal these days to release multiple versions of an album with extra songs, the itunes version, the Japanese version, labels do it to milk fans and get more €€€€, at least we didn´t get the Target version

SilentNight · 11-20-2014, 11:11 AM

"Camarillas...." love the way he sang it

bluebeagle · 11-20-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zincrox

Is it definitely a brand new song? Maybe it's just a retitled version of another song we know? Either way I'll be happy

First song that comes to mind is 'Fool'... which I'd love a studio version of

Edit: scratch that, it's not going to be fool, listen to what he says just before the song starts in the salle playel version

Fool is my absolute favorite, seeing him perform that live would be a dream come true!

Cuchulainn · 11-20-2014, 09:52 PM

I think the lyrics are (but I could be very wrong!) :

You're not on my mind
You know that's a lie
Well I have been over thinking again
But not 'cos of you
You know thats not true
Well nothing I'm saying makes any sense....

I'm not losing faith
I just don't relate
I don't do so well with waiting around
So just let me know
Do I hold or let go?
Please do something....

'Cos all I hear are your camarillas
Compliment the nonsense you're knitting
And colour in the fillers
Rub you up with rubber love

But they don't care.

That's not fair
I am aware I've punched up your private parties and more
There I go again
Dissing your friends
But you've done the same

But that's in the past
There's no one to ask
How long this will last
I've shaved this silence
But it keeps growing back
So let it grow a beard
And everyone cheers
Cos freedom is wild
And it means you

But your camarillas
Compliment the nonsense you're knitting
And colour in the fillers
Rub you up with rubber love

I don't mean to be rude?
And I'm not in a mood
And even if I was, well surely that's only human?
Better let it out
With a quick scream and shout
Maybe thats just how we're different......

I presume here the knitting is a direct reference to Lisa, who is a known knitter - and also who knitted the cover of her album? Or is that too obvious? Is this song really so directly about her? Wow....

Anyway, I think the "colour in the fillers" line potentially refers in a musical sense to filler tracks; as in those on an album considered to be the weakest songs. Kind of fits with the sentiment of the whole song and who it is potentially addressed to, as above.

"Rub you up" is a term which means to get on the good side of someone but not necessarily sincerely. It also means affecting someone in a bad way emotionally i.e. rubbing someone up the wrong way.

I think what he's trying to say here is the subject of the song is surrounded by people telling them what they want to hear just to get on the good side of him/her, including erasing (rubber love) any thought/mention of Damien.

But then again I too could be knitting nonsense

InspirationDestination · 11-20-2014, 09:58 PM

^exactly what I am hearing. It's so mean, but such a good song!

Cuchulainn · 11-20-2014, 10:05 PM

Sometimes I think Damien throws in red herrings, deliberate or otherwise, and probably sits back laughing as most people think 99% of his stuff is about Lisa when it really, really isn't.

Hard to see how this could be about anyone else though?

glo32 · 11-21-2014, 07:02 AM

I think you are taking things too literally... the whole knitting thing of course can just be a metaphor, and I think that's what it is.
The filler might just be something that fills the "holes" in the "thing she's knitting".
meaning that she's angry at him, but her arguments are a bit nonsense to him, but she goes on "knitting" her idea, and where there are "holes" in that and she's maybe ready to let go, her friends convince her not to do it by filling those holes "with rubber love"

Anyway, I do think it is about Lisa, but not as mean to her as some of you think... he's not really saying that the things that Lisa knits are nonsense and stuff like that...

carrroline · 11-21-2014, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Better let it out
With a big scream and shout

This is what this song is, damien venting frustration, not a direct message to the other person...

SilentNight · 11-21-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by carrroline

This is what this song is, damien venting frustration, not a direct message to the other person...

Yes, it's just venting, very straight forward, not that enigma to my ear. Comparing to his other angry songs, this one is really mellow. He has changed a lot

Samart · 11-21-2014, 08:14 PM

I tried to find hidden tracks on the cd too. I was surprised I could'nt find any.
O had 2 versions at least of hiden tracks. (One with Prague and Silent Night and one with Prague, Woman Like a Man and Silent Night). 9 had 9 crimes on guitar. I was waiting for at least for an hidden track or demo song.

eskimoeason · 12-04-2014, 04:11 PM

I so love the lyrics, it is so true, he does in his own way, He is a great man.

eskimoeason · 12-04-2014, 04:25 PM

I think the album is not just about Lisa, that is not Damien's style. Check out his video of the process of making the album and other interviews which he explains how the songs were worked out. I love his way of speaking, people think there are lots of metaphors but I more feel for him, it is just the right way he expresses himself as I used to write and speak in this kind of way but in my own way, eventually only few ppl could know what I said and thought I was a weirdo. So I had to find out how others spoke and did the way they normally did. I don't like it but have to learn their way. Some people are just different by nature.

Dabstarnation · 01-22-2015, 02:53 PM

Sorry to bump this thread but I just heard the song for the first time yesterday and I am hooked. Like straight up addicted, on repeat, over and over without any sight of quitting any time soon. I'll be brutally honest and say that when I first heard the entire MFFF album I wasn't immediately drawn to it like I have been to previous albums. Something felt off, after many listens through and through I came to love 'Colour Me' In and 'Trusty and True' but this song is, everything I love about Damien. I hate that it is so short, it could go on for 10 mins or so I'd be so okay with that. I will say, I didn't initially think it was about Lisa, at first I thought he was saying, "Your camarillas compliment the nonsense you're living..." but now I hear "knitting" very clearly... which is probably more than likely, a Lisa dig. I wouldn't have thought so but after hearing the recent interviews where he is still talking about Lisa... I don't think he can let this one go. To me it sounds like he's saying, "Rub you off with rubber love..." Not sure what that means, not to be gross but my first thought was that he was referring to masturbation. Rub you off, I can't have you so I'll just deal with it my own way... So I can stop thinking about you. I don't know...

There's no one to ask
How long this will last
I've shaved this silence
But it keeps growing back
So let it grow a beard
And everyone cheers
Because freedom is wild...

I actually thought that may have been a direct reference the lengthy chunk of time that passed where Damien took himself out of the spot light. If this song is really about Lisa then I take this portion of the song to mean that he doesn't know how long the silence will last, he's shaved it off... maybe pushed it aside, but that feeling of wanting to reconnect keeps coming back. So he stopped fighting it, let the silence grow a beard... (literally), hid himself away from the world and well...

freedom is wild.

Agent99 · 01-22-2015, 07:32 PM

People will say not to take it so literally, but it's obviously about Lisa...the knitting reference/sea sew and her friends are not fond of him, I've heard Gavin Glass was particularly vocal about his disdain - although he did call himself converted on his radio show when he admitted he loved "My Favourite Faded Fantasy." (the song, not the album)

Josh23 · 01-23-2015, 01:06 AM

Has he played this live anywhere?

borneoman · 01-23-2015, 06:25 AM

No.

11-14-2014, 06:29 AM	#67
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11-20-2014, 02:00 AM	#74
Shahar Cheers Darling. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 304	Am I the only one who tried to figure if it's also hidden in the cd? I tried to play the cd back (as it works with 9), and i tried to wait after the last song (as it works at O) but it didn't come... It would be really cool to find out in the end that it's hidden somewhere... __________________ "We could wrestle with tomorrow Till tomorrow's in the past"

11-20-2014, 08:44 AM	#75
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	it´s normal these days to release multiple versions of an album with extra songs, the itunes version, the Japanese version, labels do it to milk fans and get more €€€€, at least we didn´t get the Target version __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?

11-20-2014, 11:11 AM	#76
SilentNight Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 901	"Camarillas...." love the way he sang it __________________ Let love be love!

11-21-2014, 08:14 PM	#84
Samart Nothing unusual... Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231	I tried to find hidden tracks on the cd too. I was surprised I could'nt find any. O had 2 versions at least of hiden tracks. (One with Prague and Silent Night and one with Prague, Woman Like a Man and Silent Night). 9 had 9 crimes on guitar. I was waiting for at least for an hidden track or demo song. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/monkeyguitarist

11-13-2014, 03:56 PM	#62
InspirationDestination Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 387	It's really a rather unkind song, considering we know who it's about. It's so catchy, though. He voice sounds amazing and it really shows his range.

11-13-2014, 04:15 PM	#63
Damohohoh Eskimo Friend Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 33	I know! Such an unkind song, but so so catchy! The loop with the strings is simple but brilliant. Love the way he has sung the verse too!

11-13-2014, 08:55 PM	#64
faninor Eskimo Friend Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 40	Was this in MP3 only, or did I miss the link to download in FLAC?

11-13-2014, 11:53 PM	#65
Shaftell Eskimo Friend Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 74	Anyone know if this track will be available on iTunes to purchase anytime soon?

11-14-2014, 12:10 AM	#66
InspirationDestination Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 387	I think it was only available in the wooden box bundle. I received it via a zip file in MP3.

11-14-2014, 03:09 PM	#68
Closer27 Eskimo Baby Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 11	Can anybody please upload it for me and send me a link? Thank you thank you thank you!

11-19-2014, 11:30 PM	#73
faninor Eskimo Friend Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 40	Oh! It was exclusive to the limited edition. Just like sometimes iTunes has exclusive bonus tracks.

11-20-2014, 09:52 PM	#78
Cuchulainn Eskimo Baby Join Date: May 2007 Location: Europe. Posts: 2	I think the lyrics are (but I could be very wrong!) : You're not on my mind You know that's a lie Well I have been over thinking again But not 'cos of you You know thats not true Well nothing I'm saying makes any sense.... I'm not losing faith I just don't relate I don't do so well with waiting around So just let me know Do I hold or let go? Please do something.... 'Cos all I hear are your camarillas Compliment the nonsense you're knitting And colour in the fillers Rub you up with rubber love But they don't care. That's not fair I am aware I've punched up your private parties and more There I go again Dissing your friends But you've done the same But that's in the past There's no one to ask How long this will last I've shaved this silence But it keeps growing back So let it grow a beard And everyone cheers Cos freedom is wild And it means you But your camarillas Compliment the nonsense you're knitting And colour in the fillers Rub you up with rubber love I don't mean to be rude? And I'm not in a mood And even if I was, well surely that's only human? Better let it out With a quick scream and shout Maybe thats just how we're different...... I presume here the knitting is a direct reference to Lisa, who is a known knitter - and also who knitted the cover of her album? Or is that too obvious? Is this song really so directly about her? Wow.... Anyway, I think the "colour in the fillers" line potentially refers in a musical sense to filler tracks; as in those on an album considered to be the weakest songs. Kind of fits with the sentiment of the whole song and who it is potentially addressed to, as above. "Rub you up" is a term which means to get on the good side of someone but not necessarily sincerely. It also means affecting someone in a bad way emotionally i.e. rubbing someone up the wrong way. I think what he's trying to say here is the subject of the song is surrounded by people telling them what they want to hear just to get on the good side of him/her, including erasing (rubber love) any thought/mention of Damien. But then again I too could be knitting nonsense

11-20-2014, 09:58 PM	#79
InspirationDestination Eskimo Regular Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 387	^exactly what I am hearing. It's so mean, but such a good song!

11-20-2014, 10:05 PM	#80
Cuchulainn Eskimo Baby Join Date: May 2007 Location: Europe. Posts: 2	Sometimes I think Damien throws in red herrings, deliberate or otherwise, and probably sits back laughing as most people think 99% of his stuff is about Lisa when it really, really isn't. Hard to see how this could be about anyone else though?

11-21-2014, 07:02 AM	#81
glo32 Eskimo Regular Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,244	I think you are taking things too literally... the whole knitting thing of course can just be a metaphor, and I think that's what it is. The filler might just be something that fills the "holes" in the "thing she's knitting". meaning that she's angry at him, but her arguments are a bit nonsense to him, but she goes on "knitting" her idea, and where there are "holes" in that and she's maybe ready to let go, her friends convince her not to do it by filling those holes "with rubber love" Anyway, I do think it is about Lisa, but not as mean to her as some of you think... he's not really saying that the things that Lisa knits are nonsense and stuff like that...

12-04-2014, 04:11 PM	#85
eskimoeason Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 14	I so love the lyrics, it is so true, he does in his own way, He is a great man.

12-04-2014, 04:25 PM	#86
eskimoeason Eskimo Baby Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 14	I think the album is not just about Lisa, that is not Damien's style. Check out his video of the process of making the album and other interviews which he explains how the songs were worked out. I love his way of speaking, people think there are lots of metaphors but I more feel for him, it is just the right way he expresses himself as I used to write and speak in this kind of way but in my own way, eventually only few ppl could know what I said and thought I was a weirdo. So I had to find out how others spoke and did the way they normally did. I don't like it but have to learn their way. Some people are just different by nature.

01-22-2015, 02:53 PM	#87
Dabstarnation Eskimo Baby Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 16	Sorry to bump this thread but I just heard the song for the first time yesterday and I am hooked. Like straight up addicted, on repeat, over and over without any sight of quitting any time soon. I'll be brutally honest and say that when I first heard the entire MFFF album I wasn't immediately drawn to it like I have been to previous albums. Something felt off, after many listens through and through I came to love 'Colour Me' In and 'Trusty and True' but this song is, everything I love about Damien. I hate that it is so short, it could go on for 10 mins or so I'd be so okay with that. I will say, I didn't initially think it was about Lisa, at first I thought he was saying, "Your camarillas compliment the nonsense you're living..." but now I hear "knitting" very clearly... which is probably more than likely, a Lisa dig. I wouldn't have thought so but after hearing the recent interviews where he is still talking about Lisa... I don't think he can let this one go. To me it sounds like he's saying, "Rub you off with rubber love..." Not sure what that means, not to be gross but my first thought was that he was referring to masturbation. Rub you off, I can't have you so I'll just deal with it my own way... So I can stop thinking about you. I don't know... There's no one to ask How long this will last I've shaved this silence But it keeps growing back So let it grow a beard And everyone cheers Because freedom is wild... I actually thought that may have been a direct reference the lengthy chunk of time that passed where Damien took himself out of the spot light. If this song is really about Lisa then I take this portion of the song to mean that he doesn't know how long the silence will last, he's shaved it off... maybe pushed it aside, but that feeling of wanting to reconnect keeps coming back. So he stopped fighting it, let the silence grow a beard... (literally), hid himself away from the world and well... freedom is wild.

01-22-2015, 07:32 PM	#88
Agent99 Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 103	People will say not to take it so literally, but it's obviously about Lisa...the knitting reference/sea sew and her friends are not fond of him, I've heard Gavin Glass was particularly vocal about his disdain - although he did call himself converted on his radio show when he admitted he loved "My Favourite Faded Fantasy." (the song, not the album)

01-23-2015, 01:06 AM	#89
Josh23 Eskimo Baby Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 20	Has he played this live anywhere?

01-23-2015, 06:25 AM	#90
borneoman Insane Eskimo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,151	No. __________________ I made you laugh, I made you cry, I made you open up your eyes, didn't I?