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11-06-2006, 03:07 PM | #1 |
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Why only positive reviews?
I don't mean to step on anyones toes, but why are there only positive reviews on the reviews page?
I've seen a number of negative reviews and surely in the interest of fair and balanced reporting they should be shown too? |
11-06-2006, 04:00 PM | #2 |
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Yeah, I think negative reviews should be included as well. There was one posted here on the forum a while back that I was looking for earlier today, and it'd be so much easier if they were collected along with the "bad" reviews.
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11-06-2006, 04:16 PM | #3 | |
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Besides which, bad reviews are often posted in the forum so that people can disagree with them. Not having that option on the reviews page would likely just lead to the same thing where someone starting a thread about how that reviewer doesn't "get it". People aren't about to just accept them without a rebuttal. Edit: thanks for the heads up, Niko. I've actually already transcribed all of them here but not in one thread. Off to help the big guy out.
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11-06-2006, 04:52 PM | #6 |
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There will be millions of reviews. Only a selection of the best could be posted. Any of the negative reviews I've heard so far have been rediculous... written by people who disliked it before they heard it and didn't listen to it all. So why would they be put up?
Bad journalism shouldn't be rewarded.
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11-06-2006, 04:55 PM | #7 |
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As someone from round here said a while ago... you don't see many critics giving a real, acceptable reason for not liking something... maybe that's why you haven't seen a bad review on the reviews page... cause most bad reviews are actually badly written... maybe its something to do with the person not being passionate about their dislike... but thats another conversation.
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11-06-2006, 05:22 PM | #8 |
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i was going to start a post the other day about this, wondering if people wanted me to put up negative reviews as well. i usually put up reviews if they're well written, from major, reputable sources. i haven't come across many (can't remember any at the moment) major negative reviews yet. but i did start the website to promote damien rice, so i'm not sure if it's what should be done... i'd like to hear all your opinions though.
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11-06-2006, 07:07 PM | #9 |
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I agree with Spamlet in that this is a fan site, its for promoting Damien.
Negative reviews perhaps can be posted in the forum rather than in the general review section, and people can discuss them here. The exception could be if they were well written, critiquing the album instead of just criticizing it - and the only bad reviews I've seen just bashed it without intelligent critique. IMO, one doesn't come to a fan site to read/hear the person they are a fan of be bashed.
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11-06-2006, 07:11 PM | #10 |
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I'm generally more of a completist and like to hear it all, good or bad. With the to expected barrage of reviews, clearly the admins have to to exercise their editorial powers. I don't mind the occasional negative review, as long as it is well reasoned and addresses the album's music.
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11-06-2006, 07:47 PM | #11 |
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I would like to read both postive and negative reviews. However, I would prefer they are both from reputable, major sources.
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11-06-2006, 09:37 PM | #12 | |
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11-06-2006, 10:11 PM | #13 |
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As long as it's not rubbish like "Damien Rice sucks" or something like that, I don't see why there's no room on a fan site for negative reviews. I have tons of artists that I am a huge fan of but would detest reading unnecessary praise for a record or a performance that doesn't deserve it. It is not true that the artist can do no wrong in the eyes of his or her fans.
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11-06-2006, 10:12 PM | #14 |
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But are there any reviews like that out there? The well written and reasoned negative reviews? I haven't seen any...
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11-06-2006, 10:14 PM | #15 |
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I'm looking forward to pitchfork reviewing this album...they weren't mad on O at all I think it got 6 point something...ugh pitchfork can be pretty annoying at times
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11-06-2006, 10:27 PM | #16 |
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I would read some negative reviews, if they were well-written. I love reading reviews from all different perspectives.
Here's a negative one that may have some valid points: Damo review Last edited by tuckatangent; 11-06-2006 at 10:57 PM. |
11-06-2006, 11:42 PM | #17 |
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I'd read a negative review.
why not? |
11-06-2006, 11:51 PM | #18 |
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i agree with the idea of posting negative reviews of reputable sources that are well written.
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11-07-2006, 10:28 AM | #19 | |
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However, is GigWise.com a "Major Reputable Source"? It's not exactally rolling stone magazine now is it? I don't mean to come across as if I'm having a go, I'm really not, but I think its unfair that there appears to be a suggestion here (not from you mind, but from others) that the negative reviews are anti-damo. This is not always the case, I've read a few that were critical of 9 and that were in equal measure scathing and well written. However, it didn't effect my opinion of Damo or of 9, thankfully I have a mind of my own to make decisions like that, but I still enjoy knowing what other people think, and if nothing else it provokes debate, and gets Damo discussed in a non "oh he's our hero" kind of way. |
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11-07-2006, 11:55 AM | #20 | |
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11-07-2006, 03:41 PM | #22 |
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Well here is the latest negative review I've found... from 411mania.com
'I had planned on writing at length about 9 but as I composed my thoughts on what's wrong with the record (oops, have I given the game away?), one which fans have been waiting 4 years for I figured out that I could sum it up in one sentence … "It's just not that good." I really like 4 songs, 2 of the songs that I like live are big let downs and there are a couple of songs that I really dislike. So there you have it' Is that really worth posting as a permanent part of the reviews section? In a thread on the forum, no problem... but this doesn't rate as a review worth immortalising to me.
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11-07-2006, 03:49 PM | #23 | |
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All I'm trying to get across is that it is possible for this place to be a fan site without being a mouthpiece. |
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11-07-2006, 03:56 PM | #24 | |
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11-08-2006, 04:06 AM | #25 |
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yes, more negativity please. that's what this place really needs.
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11-09-2006, 01:08 AM | #26 |
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I've read quite a few negative reviews where I agree with the points they make, but not the rating. It seems a lot of the shorter reviews come across as more harsh than intended because they're so abrupt. Or maybe the reviewers are just dicks, I dunno.
I liked this one: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=13439 |
11-09-2006, 01:29 AM | #27 |
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its a positive cd dumbass
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11-09-2006, 01:28 PM | #28 | |
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11-16-2006, 04:15 AM | #30 | |
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I am a fan, but if other people think he's made a bad album, it wouldn't bother me to read a negative review, if it was presented in a thoughtful and reasoned manner. Mindless bashing is equally as pointless and banal as rabid fanboyism. |
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