San Diego - help with recording/setlist

jpeth · 11-22-2003, 01:01 PM

Was anyone else from this forum at canes last night for the show?

it was really a great show! it was quite a jam, well over 2 hours. the cellist -- vivian? -- had to hold a white flag up on her bow after volcano played on for a long jam. too funny.

i was impressed with damiens ability to rock it on many of the tracks. wow. the bandmates are incredible too. they seemed to have fun.

i recorded on minidisc and am importing it into my trusty g4 right now.

from what i have heard so far, it sounds ok. the loud parts sound great, but there is a buzz in the background that is apparent during the quiet parts.

so, does anyone do audio editing that could help this? also, if it turns out, i'll need help with the setlist.

thanks,

tony

hmmm · 11-22-2003, 02:52 PM

Where were you taping from? I saw some mics on a spare micstand far stage left.

jpeth · 11-22-2003, 03:51 PM

those were mine.

nightingale333 · 11-22-2003, 04:50 PM

I was at that show last night too - saw your mics too ( I was a few feet away from them, in the front "row" )

To tell you the truth, I was a bit surprised you got away with putting them up - in the past, Damien's sound guy has had a real problem with taping rigs and has made people take them down - I'm glad you got away with with recording though, lol

If you need help with the setlist, IM me - as for audio editing ( and Damien's shows are supposedly a problem concerning this ) you might want to ask someone else on the board that though

AllThatLies · 11-22-2003, 06:06 PM

i also recorded this show. clarity wise it sounds pretty damn good quiet and loud parts from my quick listen. mics were in a beanie about 10 feet from the left stacks (i saw your mics kinda under the stacks..thought it was a bit odd..anyhow...) i'm glad you didn't get spotted by jonathan. if he had seen your stand he probably would have made you break down or attempted to kick you out of the venue.

for your "buzz" that you mentioned. that will be on all pulls, including mine i believe. it was caused by a "phone" or at least that's what was being told to shane through the IEMs and he was mouthing during delicate i believe it was. there was also some popping and static from the speakers..both of these are examples of sh*t the venue really should have had under control but didn't. it's not your recording though.

ok, so back to my recording. it sounds good from what i can tell, but there are the occassional yackers and drunk screamers that were within my vacinity so i guess you take the good with the bad.

finally, editing wise, damien is always the most annoying person i have to record. the levels are very extreme and it's a pain to try and smooth it out in editing. basically i'd say just tweak things a bit, do a general normalization based on peak level then up the quieter parts individually and try and make them relatively smooth. i'd suggest cool edit or soundforge...you can get them both for free off of kazaa if you don't have them (not that i suggest that...it's illegal ya know

) anything else feel free to reply.Edited by: AllThatLies

hmmm · 11-23-2003, 03:03 PM

Yeah I was surprised jpeth didn't get busted either. Though I originally thought some girl was over there taping as I saw her packing up after the show.

I was right in front of those drunk guys all night, god I wanted to turn around and smack the crap out of them. You would think the one guy would shut up when even his own friend turned to him and said he couldn't hear anything now because his eardrum was blown out from his screaming, oh well.

jpeth · 11-23-2003, 03:10 PM

that was my wife. we wanted to smack some drunks too!

mierk · 11-23-2003, 04:38 PM

I'm still hoping to find someone to tape on Tuesday here -- I emailed one guy and he said he might, but then I haven't heard back since. Cross your fingers that something can get done![img]smileys/smiley14.gif[/img]

mierk · 11-24-2003, 12:23 AM

Well damn. Just heard back and still no dice on finding a taper. Anyone wanna come to Arizona Tuesday night?

nightingale333 · 11-24-2003, 02:42 AM

Lol, I'd love go to the Arizona show but I'll be at something else ( local ) that night - besides, I've been having some strange "issues" with my recorder as of late...

Good luck in finding a taper though! [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]

AllThatLies · 11-24-2003, 02:59 AM

since when do you record things? lol and yea, i would think about it but i'm going to see charlotte martin here that night.

mierk · 11-24-2003, 03:54 AM

I downloaded a couple of your Charlotte Martin recordings off the etree archive and she's pretty good. Tell her to come to Arizona sometime!

AllThatLies · 11-24-2003, 04:50 AM

she was there with the psychadelic furs a little while ago. mostly she's been on the road with howie day the past few months though. i'm sure she'll make her own rounds soon enough.

volcanoesmeltme · 11-24-2003, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mierk

Well damn. Just heard back and still no dice on finding a taper. Anyone wanna come to Arizona Tuesday night?

Me!!!! But I'm not a taper, so that doesn't help. [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

nightingale333 · 11-25-2003, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllThatLies

since when do you record things?

( what happened to my post? )

Lol, there's alot of things you don't know about me...[img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

I've only tried to record two things so far, and both attempts were unsuccessful...

P.S. On either of the recordings, is that really stupid guy that was yelping/cat-calling during the show very apparent? As funny as he might have seemed, I wanted to shoot him for being so annoying...Edited by: nightingale333

AllThatLies · 11-25-2003, 03:43 AM

he was standing one foot in front of me and about 10 feet MAX behind the other tape which will most likely not be released. it will be VERY apparent on both regardless.

Funky Avocado · 11-28-2003, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmmm

I was right in front of those drunk guys all night, god I wanted to turn around and smack the crap out of them. You would think the one guy would shut up when even his own friend turned to him and said he couldn't hear anything now because his eardrum was blown out from his screaming, oh well.

Passing the chump something green and awfully dank has a way of quieting the most obnoxious drunk.

Kudos to the guy who got the stand up with no problem. I'm jealous

11-22-2003, 04:50 PM	#4
nightingale333 Eskimo Friend Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 67	I was at that show last night too - saw your mics too ( I was a few feet away from them, in the front "row" ) To tell you the truth, I was a bit surprised you got away with putting them up - in the past, Damien's sound guy has had a real problem with taping rigs and has made people take them down - I'm glad you got away with with recording though, lol If you need help with the setlist, IM me - as for audio editing ( and Damien's shows are supposedly a problem concerning this ) you might want to ask someone else on the board that though __________________ "I was just thinking, merely thinking..."

11-23-2003, 04:38 PM	#8
mierk Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 234	I'm still hoping to find someone to tape on Tuesday here -- I emailed one guy and he said he might, but then I haven't heard back since. Cross your fingers that something can get done![img]smileys/smiley14.gif[/img] __________________ I've this creeping suspicion that things here are not as they seem...

11-24-2003, 12:23 AM	#9
mierk Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 234	Well damn. Just heard back and still no dice on finding a taper. Anyone wanna come to Arizona Tuesday night? __________________ I've this creeping suspicion that things here are not as they seem...

11-24-2003, 02:42 AM	#10
nightingale333 Eskimo Friend Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 67	Lol, I'd love go to the Arizona show but I'll be at something else ( local ) that night - besides, I've been having some strange "issues" with my recorder as of late... Good luck in finding a taper though! [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img] __________________ "I was just thinking, merely thinking..."

11-24-2003, 03:54 AM	#12
mierk Eskimo Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Posts: 234	I downloaded a couple of your Charlotte Martin recordings off the etree archive and she's pretty good. Tell her to come to Arizona sometime! __________________ I've this creeping suspicion that things here are not as they seem...

11-22-2003, 01:01 PM	#1
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	Was anyone else from this forum at canes last night for the show? it was really a great show! it was quite a jam, well over 2 hours. the cellist -- vivian? -- had to hold a white flag up on her bow after volcano played on for a long jam. too funny. i was impressed with damiens ability to rock it on many of the tracks. wow. the bandmates are incredible too. they seemed to have fun. i recorded on minidisc and am importing it into my trusty g4 right now. from what i have heard so far, it sounds ok. the loud parts sound great, but there is a buzz in the background that is apparent during the quiet parts. so, does anyone do audio editing that could help this? also, if it turns out, i'll need help with the setlist. thanks, tony

11-22-2003, 02:52 PM	#2
hmmm Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eritrea Posts: 4	Where were you taping from? I saw some mics on a spare micstand far stage left.

11-22-2003, 03:51 PM	#3
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	those were mine.

11-22-2003, 06:06 PM	#5
AllThatLies Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 330	i also recorded this show. clarity wise it sounds pretty damn good quiet and loud parts from my quick listen. mics were in a beanie about 10 feet from the left stacks (i saw your mics kinda under the stacks..thought it was a bit odd..anyhow...) i'm glad you didn't get spotted by jonathan. if he had seen your stand he probably would have made you break down or attempted to kick you out of the venue. for your "buzz" that you mentioned. that will be on all pulls, including mine i believe. it was caused by a "phone" or at least that's what was being told to shane through the IEMs and he was mouthing during delicate i believe it was. there was also some popping and static from the speakers..both of these are examples of sh*t the venue really should have had under control but didn't. it's not your recording though. ok, so back to my recording. it sounds good from what i can tell, but there are the occassional yackers and drunk screamers that were within my vacinity so i guess you take the good with the bad. finally, editing wise, damien is always the most annoying person i have to record. the levels are very extreme and it's a pain to try and smooth it out in editing. basically i'd say just tweak things a bit, do a general normalization based on peak level then up the quieter parts individually and try and make them relatively smooth. i'd suggest cool edit or soundforge...you can get them both for free off of kazaa if you don't have them (not that i suggest that...it's illegal ya know ) anything else feel free to reply.Edited by: AllThatLies

11-23-2003, 03:03 PM	#6
hmmm Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eritrea Posts: 4	Yeah I was surprised jpeth didn't get busted either. Though I originally thought some girl was over there taping as I saw her packing up after the show. I was right in front of those drunk guys all night, god I wanted to turn around and smack the crap out of them. You would think the one guy would shut up when even his own friend turned to him and said he couldn't hear anything now because his eardrum was blown out from his screaming, oh well.

11-23-2003, 03:10 PM	#7
jpeth Eskimo Baby Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 18	that was my wife. we wanted to smack some drunks too!

11-24-2003, 02:59 AM	#11
AllThatLies Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 330	since when do you record things? lol and yea, i would think about it but i'm going to see charlotte martin here that night.

11-24-2003, 04:50 AM	#13
AllThatLies Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 330	she was there with the psychadelic furs a little while ago. mostly she's been on the road with howie day the past few months though. i'm sure she'll make her own rounds soon enough.

11-25-2003, 03:43 AM	#16
AllThatLies Eskimo Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 330	he was standing one foot in front of me and about 10 feet MAX behind the other tape which will most likely not be released. it will be VERY apparent on both regardless.